S&w m&p to have new trigger!

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Gosh! I hope they don't change the trigger, as I am extremely happy with my M&P .40c and I can shoot it very well. LM
 
This could be interesting. I wonder if Apex has heard anything about this?
 
The new trigger will be similar to glocks trigger. Not necessarily with the scissor thing but the shape. It may be like fnh's new fns. This is a much needed update. The new trigger is also said to have a much more crisp/potent trigger reset (like that of a glock
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Why don't you skip all the fussing around and just get a Glock then?! :evil:

Glad to hear they are changing something though if people were having problems or disagreeing with it
 
@joemal

yes, joemal. That's why I own 0 M&P's.
Now if my department were to issue these handguns, then I would be obligated to carry it. Also if obligated to carry it, I hope it will have the new trigger. :banghead:
 
Hey guys... it's true.

Following is a cut/paste from an email reply from Mark Dix of S&W.

"Hey Mike,

We are in fact coming out with a cleaner, crisper trigger for the M&P pistols. The initial offering will be for the smaller calibers first- 9mm, .40, and .357Sig. The time line for a full scale production is slated for April/ May. This new trigger should be the standard for the M&Ps come summer. The reset is shorter, crisper, and smoother with none of the “false reset’ that some of the pistols have now.

The only fly in the ointment for you is we haven’t been told when the trigger will be available for the .45, as that will require additional testing as the .45 doesn’t share parts with the other calibers. We haven’t been provided pricing yet for retro-fitting current guns. This system will only be offered for pistols that have or can be setup with the thumb safety. If your .45 has a thumb safety, it will easily convert to the new trigger when it becomes available for the .45.

I hope this helps. I realize it doesn’t answer the two most important questions- when available and how much- but know it’s coming.

M"
 
You'll notice that even though he uses the phrase "cleaner, crisper trigger", reading the sentence in context makes it sound more like he is referring to the trigger action than the actual trigger itself when he follows it up with "The reset is shorter, crisper, and smoother with none of the “false reset’ that some of the pistols have now.". Plus he doesn't make any reference to the trigger being solid.

The change described sounds a lot like the function of the Performance Center Pro striker block or Apex Tactical Ultimate Striker Block.

I know S&W wanted to include the Apex Tactical parts in their production pistols, it wil be interesting to see what this upgrade entails
 
Well you heard it hear first. Now grayhambone will not be discredited anymore. Not only that maybe you should believe me next time huh???
Anyway, thanks for following up with him. Please send him an email thanking him.
 
Not to discredit ANYONE in this thread, but i call POOOEY on this whole thing.

I have heard talks of this "tactical reset trigger" (which does NOT replace the actual articulated trigger) for over a year now. Like i mentioned earlier, i heard that 500 or so were actually made, but they are sorta vaporware IMO

In other words, ill beleive it when I see it.

S&W customer service is good, but everyone you talk to has a different story
 
David S

We could have a gentlemans bet here.
The email wasn't from customer service....direct LEO sells? He's going to lie and possibly loose his reputabiluty with any law enforcement sells? Excuse my French....but don't be a @$$
 
Maybe the new trigger will be for everyone and not just LE sales... check out S&W's SEC filings. Go to the link below and download their SEC filing from 02/08/12, type 8-k. Looks like we'll be seeing lots more money pumped into the M&P pistol line followed (eventually) with hunting caliber modern sporting rifles.

http://ir.smith-wesson.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=90977&p=irol-sec
 
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Is the trigger going to be better than the pro series or the exact same thing with a new look? The pro series trigger is great to me already
 
Is the trigger going to be better than the pro series or the exact same thing with a new look? The pro series trigger is great to me already
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The Pro-series uses the same trigger as the regular M&P, but a different sear.

Likewise, from the sounds of this it sounds like it'll still be the same physical trigger the gun has always had, but possibly with a different striker-block and/or the addition of something similar to Apex's RAM.
 
guess

my guess is complete new trigger.
if it was just a diff sear thats what thed call it
 
It should be a modified version of the PPQ trigger. I have shot the PPQ and it has a stellar trigger. To put it bluntly it is a better gun! I have an Apex on my M&P 9 with over 1k rounds and a new (not broken in) PPQ trigger is better IMHO. Remember Smith owns Walther and the PPQ is a hidden gem of a gun for them that might not be as popular as the M&P in the states so if they add the trigger to the M&P they would really up what the M&P is. As for the PPQ, for 500 bucks it has a better slide release, a better mag release (IMO), better trigger and is a more accuracy gun than an M&P. This has to do with the rifling and how the barrel and slide fit together tighter in the PPQ. But back to the trigger, all smith needs to do is grab that trigger and put it in the M&P...they already own it therefore they would never need APEX not to mention that PPQ is a better trigger than an even with an M&P setup that had an APEX. The APEX on changes the pull, smoothness, and travel. It doesnt change the physical style of the trigger itself on the M&P, which once again in my opinionated mind as an owner of an M&P and a shooter of countless other guns the M&P trigger design is fair!
 
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S&W and Walther do share parts though....A S&W pistol I looked at had Walther all over the frame:)
 
S&W and Walther do share parts though....A S&W pistol I looked at had Walther all over the frame
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SW99?

Walther made the frames and internals for the SW99. S&W made the slides and barrels. Walther doesn't use S&W parts on their pistols and other than the SW99, S&W doesn't use Walther parts on their pistols.

They do seem to have a good relationship with each other though, and they may share design ideas, I don't know.

As to this new M&P trigger, this is excellent news, as I think (as well as everyone who ever bought an Apex part) that the stock M&P trigger could use improvement. The sales of the PPQ may have opened their eyes on what people are looking for when purchasing pistols.
 
Wasn't the M&P22, thinking it was a Sigma... Shot a Friends M&P9 yesterday, plenty accurate, but terrible reset feel.
 
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Wasn't the M&P22, thinking it was a Sigma... Shot a Friends M&P9 yesterday, plenty accurate, but terrible reset feel.
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Had to have been the SW99. The only guns that S&W has bought Walther frames for were the SW99.

S&W produces the Walther PPK/S for Walther in the USA.

Walther(Umarex) produces the M&P22 for S&W.
 
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... notice ... the phrase "cleaner, crisper trigger", reading the sentence in context makes it sound more like he is referring to the trigger action than the actual trigger itself when he follows it up with "The reset is shorter, crisper, and smoother with none of the “false reset’ that some of the pistols have now.". Plus he doesn't make any reference to the trigger being solid.

The change described sounds a lot like the function of the Performance Center Pro striker block or Apex Tactical Ultimate Striker Block.

I know S&W wanted to include the Apex Tactical parts in their production pistols, it wil be interesting to see what this upgrade entails
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There are quite a few M&P match pistols on the competition circuit with trigger jobs done by Burwell and with APEX Tactical triggers. S&W certainly had enough time to study/research the "best" triggers for M&Ps and I am also curious as to what S&W will put in the new M&Ps and what they will charge to retrofit M&Ps with old triggers.

I have been very happy with the trigger job I have done on my M&P 40/45, but will consider trigger replacement from S&W depending on reviews/comments.
 
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