I have a 17-5 shooter and a 17-5 safe queen.My 17-5 shooter is wonderful.If I ever sell one it will be my 17-5 safe queen(NIB,TTT,papers,tools,etc.)Both of mine seem to be perfect in every way,which is a lot to ask of revolvers less than 35 or so years old.I luv S&W revolvers,and my tastes tend to be oriented toward really nice J frames,cause they're so damn cute and all, but these 17-5 revolvers seem to be perfect anyway.Hell, maybe all 17s and pre 17s are,I can't testify to that,but buy one if you get the chance before all you can buy are guns with infernal locks or worse.Who knows??????