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Yeah, I'm also a little confused about "fixing" one of the finest pistols made before even shooting it. If it's unreliable now the OP will never know why.
I will try to avoid any waxed ammo as I have heard it doesn't function well in the Model 41.
Whoever told you that has no idea what he is talking about. To the best of my knowledge, every brand of competition .22 uses some type of wax. In fact, it seems to me that one is either going to find waxed .22 or copper washed .22, and the latter is primarily available as bulk pack and other assorted garbage.
I'm honestly starting to wonder if we're being trolled here.
Trolled Huh?? What does that even mean?? What do you mean by that??
The ammo I have is Remington Golden Bullet, CCI stingers, Winchester 333 Lead round nose, Champion bulk and Blazer bulk ( I believe it lead round nose. Not sure if any of these is waxed.
I read on on Rimfire Central that waxed 22lr does not cycle well in Model 41s becaise of the tight chamber. Don't know this personally as I have not shot mine yet.
Also I work on my guns. Non is too sacred to not try to improve. I worked extensively on my CZ Shadow 2, converted it to SA and did extensive polishing (the trigger is under 2lbs and with short reset). I also have a Tanfoglio Elite Limited, same thing polished the internals, added a flat trigger (trigger is under two lbs).
I have since sold my Ruger Mark iii, but same thing added the Volguartsen stuff (sear, sear spring and trigger along with the clark hammer bushing, result: great trigger and very accurate.
CCI SV and all other match grade ammo is lubricated with a wax like coating.
I never shoot that bulk junk through any precision pistol.
I apologize for not being more specific. My high standards are finicky and I've found that the cci sv is is best for all of them. That is what I reach for on the shelves. The eley works nice too.I think I understand your sentiments here but the Model 41 and most any other finely-tuned .22 target pistol are not sacred cows. For cheap practice, there's no downside to shooting sv "bulk" ammunition in these pistols. The bulk ammunition might not be as accurate and it might require a more frequent cleaning regimen but for informal target practice, they will do as well as any mainstream Ruger in the same role-especially if you don't have one.
I think I understand your sentiments here but the Model 41 and most any other finely-tuned .22 target pistol are not sacred cows. For cheap practice, there's no downside to shooting sv "bulk" ammunition in these pistols. The bulk ammunition might not be as accurate and it might require a more frequent cleaning regimen but for informal target practice, they will do as well as any mainstream Ruger in the same role-especially if you don't have one.
Sounds like good news and a fine start to your day as well.Got to the indoor range (at the gun club I belong to) this morning. I only had an hour as I had to get to work this morning. I think it went pretty good. I'm pleased the way the Model 41 ran. I took 4 different brands of 22lr.
All in all very pleased the way the Model 41 shot. I really liked the trigger unlike a lot of guns that need work to get a good trigger. The 41 seemed easy to get and hold on target.
I suppose the outrage is that the gentleman bought a Model 41 and then treated it like a Mk II - leaving the cognoscenti to wonder why he didn't buy a Mk II in the first place.
My only point was/is that the Model 41 doesn't have to be relegated to using "match" grade ammunition exclusively just because it's a highly refined target pistol; it's entirely viable and practical to use "bulk" ammunition (even hv stuff) and "match" grade ammunition in the same pistol, depending on the purpose at the time, and still have the benefits offered by both types of ammunition.
Makes me think to the Pre-Woodsman/Woodsman *infamnia* of firing HV in an early Woodsman or Target Automatic built and *marked* for Standard Velocity only.Bulk and high velocity ammo will generally be less accurate than standard velocity ammo but the difference is not really big enough in most cases for the average shooter to notice, just as an owner of a S&W 41 or Hammerli International will not become a master shooter with the purchase of a match pistol alone.
Using high velocity ammo in a top grade match pistol, like the Hammerli International, can turn out to be a mistake, and a costly one at that.
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I see from another post that CMP has, in stock, some Eley bricks (not Tenex) at SV speeds for a pretty decent price.Today I put 80 rounds of Fed Auto Match through the model 41. It shot great. Also shot a couple mags if Rem bulk. Working on getting some SV ammo, nothing found yet. I may have a line on a couple boxes of Fed Auto Match which while not the same as SV it's still a little lower velocity.
I installed a recoil buffer today as well. This pistol really shoots nice. I will upload a 25 yard free hand target later from shooting today
Just an update: I was able to pick up the Model 41 last night. I field stripped it. It has lots of sharp edges. Seems unfired to me.
I plan to do some polishing with my dremel on the feed ramp and chamber possibly even this morning.
I have a range trip planned with some buddies this Friday at the outdoor range I belong to. But if I can get away for a early morning trip (before work) our club has a indoor range I will do some initial testing with a verity of ammo I have already. I will try to avoid any waxed ammo as I have heard it doesn't function well in the Model 41.
I will report back what I find out!
My plans for this pistol is mainly to use for range outings. I pretty interested in steel challenge so I may try to get the needed mags needed to participate in it with 22lr. Also our outdoor range has steel plates which I enjoy shooting. 22 ammo doesn't always knock them down but it's fun trying.