S&W Sigma Pistols

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Run away and buy a real Glock. I had a sigma and sent it back 3 times before Smith kept it.

Shot OK, trigger was a way too stiff. It didn't like to go off all the time. I got a Glock and all the issues went away. The Sigma is just a poor copy of a Glock with a better feeling grip before the series 3 came out.
 
I just got back from the LGS, bought 2 sigma 40's (actually I bought one and my wife bought 1). I just put 112 round through both of them using WWB, no FTF, no FTE, no FTLB, the only problem I have is once every 25 round or so it hits me square betewwn the eyes with the shell. :eek: I plan on putting another 200 rds or so each before placing them in my bug out bags (one for me and one for the wife). I did like the fact that their "rebate" is not necessarilly for $30.00, it can also be for 2 extra mags. So we sent ours off to get the extra mags.:D

This is the second Sigma I owned, the first one I never shot. After hearing of all the problems I traded it off on something else. Lost about $50.00 on that deal.:banghead:

Well they seem to be fine, the triggers started getting looser at around 75 rounds. So by the time I got 300 round in them they should be fine.
 
The Sigma may not be a "real glock" but the grips feels a LOT nicer if you ask me. They both have that darned square slide though. I've always been turned off by that.
 
i have a new sigma. don't like it much. it jams with aluminum and steel case ammo. hollow points tend to get caught up on the small feeding ramp. recoil is much worse than a heavier ruger. its not as accurate as my ruger.

it is lighter and makes a better carry gun.
 
I just picked up my 5th SIGMA. I got the Allied Forces Edition SW9VE. They are underrated pistols. I think that the new SIGMA pistols are the best all around carry gun available. Great ergonomics, reliable, accurate, light weight, high capacity and a fantastic price. I have been shooting for 25 years and have owned just about every semiautomatic pistol made at least once. There are many great pistols on the market but very few great pistols for less than $350.

Buy the SIGMA and get used to the trigger. You'll be a better shot because of it!
 
i would go for it. i was shopping for a compact 9mm, and didn't really care about the price, so i asked the clerk to show me what he had, without telling me what they cost:

glock 19: hated the grip angle
glock 26: way too small for my mitts
kahr pm9: mag capacity way too low
s&w 9ve: felt good, 16 rd mag
xd subcompact: same as above
taurus millenium pro: was like the glock

so i settled on the xd and sigma. when i asked the clerk which he liked, he said the sigma.

"why is that?" i asked

"because it's almost $200 cheaper and'll do the same job."

"okay, sold!"

i've put close to 1,000 rounds through mine since february, with absolutely NO problems of any kind. it's what i carry everywhere with me, in a bianchi 'minimalist' pancake holster.
 
The thirg gen Sigmas are reliable, as long as you're using ammo it likes. Laquered steel case will jam after 100 rounds. My 40VE is tempermental with Win white box. With CCI Blazer, I've had no trouble what-so-ever. For the price, the ergos and resilience make up for the ammo temper. The front sight is always an issue, because of it's melted-pin set-up. S&W will fix it, though, should it ever pop off. Again, for a 250-300 dollar hand-gun, it's probably the best. Go another hundered and get an M&P that is making some people drop their Glocks.
 
Pick up the Sigma, for under $300 it is an excellent pistol and S&W is running the $30 rebate or two mag special. The 2nd gens got a bad reputation, the current models are fine.


I have bought four Sigma's in the last month or so. Best bargain around and even better if you buy before April 30th. You get a $30 rebate or two mags.
 
I have a Sigma 9mm. While I am not the gun expert many on this board are I like it fine.

it has not failed to fire or reload or whatever all the abbreviations here mean. Basically no trouble at all, 200 rounds or so.

Trigger pull is not so bad, maybe if I knew better I might think different but I kind of like it.

I point it, it goes bang, hole in target abotu where I aimed. pretty simple.

Is there anyone out there that can tell me how long the two mags take to get?
 
I shot a friends .40 Sigma at a range not too long ago. He bought it for a carry/camping. It was combat accurate at 50ft, and seem pretty reliable with several different types of ammo he had on hand. The grip was more comfortable compared to a Glock ( I use to own a 2nd gen Glock 22 several years ago, and sold it because I disliked the grip angle. Plus I am not a fan of plastic fantastics). The Sigma's major fault is the crappy trigger, one of worst triggers I ever pulled. Other than that is not a remakable pistol. Its does the job well in which its was design. Its a no frills, low priced, basic pistol. BTW, he recently sold it to help pay for a new Smith 1911. He told me he could not get used to the trigger and rarely used it.
 
Update time.

I have shot around 500 rounds through each gun, I have only had 1 failure to fire and it was because of hard primer. Rem UMC has some tough primers in it.

these guns are now ready for my bug out bags.:D :D
 
Gosh I feel cheated.

My .40 Sigma has NEVER FTF, FTE, FTF. It is combat accurate. It has good factory sights. It has metal mags. It fits my hand better than a Glock.

What is wrong with me and my Sigma?
 
For me I find that using my middle finger on the trigger works best. It is a trigger that you have to get use to but then again it also teaches you discipline not to jerk the trigger like I do every now and then. :rolleyes:
 
S&W 9mm Sigma

I bought mine a few months ago and love it.
The trigger is stiffer then I'm use to but you get use to it quickly it's 3 dot sights is very accurate.
I say buy it, it's worth the money for a lower priced pistol.
 
I love the grip on the Sigma. Thats why I own four of them and will get another tomorrow. Never had a single burp out of mind. They do have a stiff 8-9 pound trigger but thats suits me just great. I sure don't want to have my XD's in hand with a nervous finger. That saying.........I would let the perp come inside before popping the cap.:)
 
Any Sigma that has an accessory rail is a THIRD generation, not a second. Smith has made lots of changes. I guy who lives down the street from the factory in Springfield, MA listed them for me:

Any Sigma that has an equipment rail on it is the currently produced 3rd Gen "Enhanced" Sigma.

-S&W added the equipment rail to strengthen the frame to prevent the dust cover from cracking.
-Redesigned striker assembly from the loose tolerance chisel tip striker to a round striker system with all parts machined within .002"
-Redesigned trigger assembly to correct the light primer strike issues. This resulted in about 2 pounds being added to the trigger pull weight.
-Addition of the "M*******" loaded chamber indicator, rounded top corners of the slide, checkering moulded into the sides of the grip and the lowering of the ejection port to correct the ejection problems in the 1st and 2nd Gens.

For a good review of these, go to smith-wessonforum.com and look for the post "I believe this is a really good value".
 
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i have a first gen .40 s&w., purchased in 94? I think.
i have better accuracy with it than i do my xd-40.
it feels good in the hand and comes up right on target.

the only problem i have had is a failure to feed SOFT lead bullets.
i am reloading with silvercast bullets, and they feed fine.
 
I am not a big fan of the Sigma, but they do work. And considering CDNN is advertising them for as low as $199, it's hard to pass up.
 
I've got one that has never failed in any way, it has a very compact grip considering magazine capacity, feels wonderful in the hand, for that price there is nothing comparable, and in an IWB it disappears under almost any shirt
 
I've got the sigma 40VE and like everyone says the trigger is a little stiff, but heck after putting 50 rounds through it the triggers on my XD45 and Glock G20 feel like single action pretty darned accurate too
 
When I was very young, and knew basically nothing about handguns, a 1st gen Sigma .40 was the first handgun I ever bought new.

I had to have the feed ramp milled, it was VERY picky about ammo. Covered under warranty, right? The front sight FELL OUT. I wanted Trijicons anyway. The trigger was something like 12 lbs. I know I read that in advance, but I didn't have enough experience to really understand what that meant. After the third or fourth trip back to the smith, I started to ask myself if I really trusted it enough to stake my life on it. I sold it for a loss and was glad to get rid of it.

I take every possible opportunity to tell people to stay away from them. I have heard that all the problems I had were worked out after the first gen, but then I think to myself, "Why could they not get it right the first time?" This business is way too competitive, there are SO many good pistols out there, a manufacturer can't afford to drop the ball. They put out another generation. (Most manufactureres seem to get it right the first time these days.) Then they imported the SW99 as their own. Then the M&P. So it took them THAT many tries to figure out what Glock pretty much got right the first time.

The M&P might be miraculous. But I'm a LONG ways away from ever wanting to pick up another S&W auto. After my 1911s, Glocks, and XDs fail, MAYBE.
 
I meant to post this update sooner. Anyway I have put about 600 rounds through my Sigma 40VE without a single problem. It feed Federal, Speer, and Cor Bon DPX hollowpoints, and all FMJ rounds I tried including some range reloads. I got the two free 14 round mags from Smith and the two that came with the gun. I also purchased a 15 rounder from SW so my Sigma.40 is now 15+1 and stoked with DPX. The trigger has smoothed out after the 600 rounds and many more dry fires. I am a happy camper.
 
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