S&W99 new purchase

[1moa@500]

I was at my local gun store tonight looking for a new toy. I had a $350 budget and I wanted a used 9mm to shoot and was thinking of a glock. I was talking with the counterman and told him my situation and he brought out a few used guns telling me he did not have any used 9mm glocks. I went through the boxes and started in after this s&w 99. He said it was used and by the condition of the gun it has about 50 or so rds through it. The white followers on the mags are still pristine and there is no wear at the front of the barrel where it locks up. I asked him the price and he said around $300. I played with it for a few minuites and asked him a few questions about the two stage? trigger. I asked for $275 and he said yes. Out the door for $326.00 including tax and dros. This gun does not feel like a box and just needs someone to feed it. Did I get a good deal? I feel I did and I got to support my local shop. Does anyone have any insight to this pistol? Thanks for your time guys!

 

[General Geoff]

You got a fantastic deal. I bought my .40 caliber SW99 in 2006 for $400, and it obviously had more than 50 rounds through it (law enforcement trade-in). It's a top-notch pistol, frame is made in Germany by Walther, slide is made by Smith & Wesson. It at least equals a Glock in quality, probably exceeds it slightly. The only downside is its quirky trigger (I have the SA/DA model w/decocker).

Here's a picture I took of mine, the day I bought it:

 

[PX15]

SW99...

Basically the same pistol as the Walther P99 with the exception (as I understand it) the slide and barrel are made in the USA by S&W... Everything else is pure Walther.

My buddy has the SW99 and loves it. At one time I had the Walther P99/AS, and the P99c/AS and my friends SW99 was for any practical consideration absolutely as good a firearm as my Walthers..

Only difference in my opinion is that while the Walthers only came with a one year warranty (by S&W, the importers) the SW99 came with a lifetime warranty.

Shoot it in good cheer like you stole it....

Cause you did..

Best Wishes,

Jesse

 

[Dwrice]

I am sure that S&W dealt with the problems but when they first came out there were some problems. When I was in the academy a little over ten years ago a bunch of guys and girls from another department were issued brand new 99's and each and everyone had a problem in the first ten rounds. But for the price you got a great deal.

 

[searcher451]

Stole it? Absolutely you stole it. Expect the police to show up any minute at your door. I've purchased two SW99s and have found them to be reliable, dependable, and strangely accurate as well. You did well.

 

[1moa@500]

Thanks for the replies. I am now in the process of gathering brass, lead, powder, dies and primers. Does anyone have a pet load for lead bullets. I have all kinds of powder but I need to make pf for idpa if I shoot it well enough. I dislike having to wait to pick it up but they say patience is a virtue

 

[Storm]

I own and have shot the Walther P99 in both 9mm and .40, both full size and compact, and the SW99 in 9mm and .45, both full size (45) and compact (9mm), and can honestly say that I find no significant difference in shooting quality between the two versions, all being outstanding guns. I say that as an avid Walther shooter and collector. Others report better experiences with the full Walther version, but that has not been my experience. You did very well.

If you decide to go with FMJ bullets, 4.2 to 4.6 grains of Bullseye behind a 115 grain bullet was always optimal for me when I was into reloading. I recently got a press and 9mm dies to get back into reloading, but being able to find primers would make that a lot easier.

 

[1moa@500]

I picked her up yesterday after work and spent most of the night loading up some ammo. The gun was bone dry and I had to soak it in clp to get the crud off of the slide but it has very little wear. I am forcing myself to go to the desert this weekend to break it in properly

 

[RusskiTexan]

I own one and the ergos on it are top. I took the two day CQB class with it (about 600 rounds) and while the other people in the class (glocks and XDs) had blisters from their 9mm, I stay relatively painless shooting the .40. The dislikes are few. The roll pins cheapen the otherwise nice construction, and require hammer to take out (compare with solid pins on glocks that come out with a push). The single/double action in a striker pistol is a curiosity piece, although mechanism by which the sear is reset looks kind of hooky to me. The striker and transfer bar had casting marks which required some polishing. That had smoothed out the DA pull, but also me feel like I've got a WV for the price of BMW. It does function flawlessly though.

Almost forgot. After shooting a few hundreds of rounds make sure to disassemble the slide and clean the extractor and its slot. Since it holds the firing pin block in place crud from under extractor can work its way into firing pin cavity. That's German engineering for you.

 

[Shipwreck]

Almost forgot. After shooting a few hundreds of rounds make sure to disassemble the slide and clean the extractor and its slot. Since it holds the firing pin block in place crud from under extractor can work its way into firing pin cavity. That's German engineering for you.

I have 2 P99s - I have disassembled the slides on both after 1k rounds, and again at 2k rounds. They were very clean inside the striker area. I was very surprised.

But, I used CCI Aluminum blazer in 9mm when shooting all those ounds. That ammo is very clean compared to WWB.

So, it can depend on the ammo you use.

Go here for disassembly vids on the slide. I recently just reposted them. Its the same process on the SW99 as it is on t he P99 (I used to own a SW99)

http://www.waltherforums.com/showthread.php?t=11253

 

[RusskiTexan]

The gun IS Walther P99 (which would set you back 700) except for slide and barrel from S&W. I believe the parts inside the slide are Walther as well. A steal at 326...

 

[Storm]

Walther seems to have a fondness for roll pins (as do older SIGs). Considering typical German over-engineering I won't second-guess them I did find the roll pin holding on the rear grip section to be a pain to remove the first time, but once I used the proper punch it just popped right out like a solid pin, not that big of a deal.

I've also noticed that some roll pins have a very slighly bent profile to help retain them, where straight solid pins can sometimes have the tendency to walk out, especilly with wear or multiple removals.

 

[Shipwreck]

I prev had one with a hard chromed slide:

 

[1moa@500]

Thanks for all the replies. I watched all the videos and now have a better working knoledge of the gun. Now I need some more 10 round mags because I live in Ca.

 

[Shipwreck]

Glad the vids help.

I took my slides apart at the 1k and 2k mark. After that, I decided to wait about 2k in between. I didn't find it necessary really. But, as I stated above, it can be ammo dependant on how dirty the gun gets

 

[Dangerman009]

I'm interested in these and would like more information. Are they as accurate as the P99s? What is the recoil like on the 9mm? Would you consider them a multi-role gun (range, plinker, carry, etc.)? I have a CP99 (co2 powered pellet gun) that should be pretty much the same size and feel.

9mm is much more attractive cost-wise than .45ACP or .380. In fact, it seems that 9mm is the second cheapest caliber to shoot, next to .22LR. Am I right in assuming this?

Nice looking guns everyone.

I don't want to hijack a thread, so if I need to start a new thread please let me know.

 

[General Geoff]

In fact, it seems that 9mm is the second cheapest caliber to shoot, next to .22LR. Am I right in assuming this?

7.62 Tokarev is cheaper

 

[Dangerman009]

I probably should have said of the more common calibers.

 

[1moa@500]

I just put 200 rounds downrange a few hrs ago recoil is not an issue. I would much rather carry p99 over my 1911 but I don't have enough time behind the trigger to be comfortable with it yet.

 

[Shipwreck]

Congrats. It is a nice gun. I got mine when I was hutting for a P99 in 2005 - and at the time, the P99s were scarce, as there was a stoppage on importation of them for several months.

 

[S&W99]

Just joined and added a thread under sw99 .40 torture test. Great gun so far.

 

[searcher451]

I'm not surprised that you are happy; lots of SW99 owners can say the same. I've got several thousand rounds through my SW99C and have never experienced a hiccup of any sort. It runs perfectly through all varieties of ammo and makes a terrific carry gun.