Safer with a gun? A firearm novice's decision on concealed carry...

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Saw this on a CBS NY Radio website. When I see something like this it almost makes me think we really are making progress... Not perfect, but enough to make the Brady Bunch reach for the Pepcid, I'm sure....




Safer with a gun? A firearm novice's decision on concealed carry

http://wcbs880.com/national/PackinHeat-aa/resources_news_html

Saturday January 22, 2005

EDITOR'S NOTE All but four states allow people to carry concealed handguns. But for any individual, the decision to do so is personal. An Associated Press writer tells why she considered seeking a permit and the choice she finally made.< ^By ANITA CHANG= ^Associated Press Writer=

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) The guns were laid out on blue rubber mats printed with the Smith & Wesson logo.

I sat in my seat for several moments, just looking at the smooth metal of the barrels and the darkness of the empty chambers. I was surprised at how much they looked like the toys my brother and I used to shoot each other with when we were kids.

Tentatively, I stuck out my index finger and spun the cylinder on the revolver. Cooool. It was the first time I'd ever touched a handgun.

A revolver and a semiautomatic were set out in front of each of the 17 students in my class. We'd spend a long day together, eight hours in the classroom and four in the shooting range.

If we passed a written test at day's end, we'd be eligible to apply for permits to carry concealed handguns.

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Summer camp, when I was 9, was the only time I ever shot a firearm, and that was a rifle. My aim was so terrible I asked the counselor if my gun was broken (it wasn't.)

So I was a little surprised three years ago when my father said: ``You need to get a gun. And a concealed carry license.''

I was moving away from my hometown to start my first real job in the big city of Dallas. I'd be living on my own for the first time.

Although scared, I wasn't about to admit it. The plan was, if things got rough, I'd get a big, mean dog.

The ``real world'' changed my outlook. I'm petite small enough to wear kid-sized T-shirts and look about 16, maybe 19 if I wear makeup.

I don't look tough.

Like many young women, I sometimes get harassed and not just when I'm out dancing at nightclubs but when I'm pumping gas, doing interviews or buying cereal.

I bought pepper spray to ward off one creepy security guard. Then I took up boxing. But I didn't think of myself as someone who should be packin' heat.

That was before the harassment on the highway.

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There were plenty of motorcyclists on the interstate that Sunday afternoon, but none as reckless as the two guys on sport bikes who were merging into traffic riding only on their rear tires.

As they sped toward me, one went on the passenger side, the other the driver's side. That one leered at me, his craggy, stubbled face just inches from my window.

Next, he sped off ahead and, while going at least 60 mph, did daredevil tricks at one point climbing off the seat and balancing on the foot peg on one side, skimming the asphalt with his sneaker.

Hopping on the seat again, he took off in a blast of speed, then leaned back and crossed his hands behind his head, riding as if sitting in a La-Z-Boy.

But it wasn't long before he slowed down and was right next to me again.

All I wanted to do was pick up some ground beef and milk from the store. Why wouldn't he leave me alone?

While his friend rode ahead, the maniac merged in front of me, then accelerated and slowed unpredictably. I resisted the urge to go around for fear I'd accidentally run over him.

The bikers exited the interstate with me. And kept following.

At red lights, I pretended to be changing channels on the radio. Without turning my head, I could see the guys pointing and talking to each other.

What would I do if they followed me all the way to the store? Into the store? A big dog couldn't help me now.

Two miles later, I turned and the jerks kept going straight. I turned into the grocery store parking lot, and sat there, shaking and sweaty.

Why was I so powerless to protect myself? That was my first thought.

My second thought: I need a gun.

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The timing was perfect. Ohio's concealed carry law went into effect last April, after nine years of debate in the Legislature. Ohio joined 45 other states that allow residents to carry concealed handguns; only Kansas, Nebraska, Wisconsin and Illinois do not.

Generally, concealed weapon laws require a person be at least 21, not a fugitive from justice, and not mentally ill. Conviction of a long list of crimes also precludes getting a permit.

In some states, authorities must issue a permit to anyone who meets the requirements. In others, applicants must show a need. While a precise national figure is not known, tens of thousands of people in Ohio already have received permits to carry concealed handguns. I thought I ought to become one of them.

As soon as I got home from the store, even before putting my groceries away, I called the New Albany Shooting Range.

I figured applicants had to have some sort of previous experience with handguns ... or at least good aim.

``Not a problem at all,'' the man at the shooting range told me, explaining the concealed carry class, leading to a license.

``We'll provide you everything you need. Just bring yourself.''

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My class was about half men, half women. Most were middle-aged; I looked to be the youngest.

Instructor Terrie Bussey warned us as the long day started at 8 a.m., ``You're going to be exhausted by the time this is over.''

We started with a lesson in firearm safety (Rule No. 1: Always keep your gun pointed in a safe direction.). Then came descriptions of various kinds of weapons and ammunition, which we learned to load and unload.

Finally, it was time to fire some guns.

The walls and ceiling of the front portion of the shooting range were covered with egg crate foam to absorb sound. Six booths, separated by thick plastic, looked onto a 50-foot range, like a bowling alley with concrete walls.

A long table covered with green felt held more than two dozen revolvers and semiautomatics from which we could choose for practice. A red plastic shopping basket under the table held more powerful .45-caliber pistols.

I began to feel butterflies as Bussey turned on the fan that blew downrange, so the smoke and lead from the cartridges wouldn't cloud around the shooters. I put on blue plastic earmuffs and smudged safety glasses.

What does a gun going off sound like in real life?

I soon learned, jumping like a skittish horse the first time someone fired, then again with the next shot. I squeezed the earmuffs even tighter to my head.

Finally, it was my turn to shoot.

First, I practiced dry firing, aiming the unloaded 9 mm revolver at the center of the paper target and squeezing the trigger a few times. The gun looked cartoonishly oversized in my small hands, and I tried to hold it steady, lining up rear and front sights, squinting at the target about one car length away.

Click, click, click.

My clammy fingers shaking, I loaded a cartridge into the one o'clock position of the cylinder.

Again, I stared at the bull's-eye, squinting or did I shut my eyes? and squeezed the trigger.

BANG!

It was as if a bomb went off in my face. A flicker of flame burst from the barrel, followed by a curlicue of smoke and a whiff of gunpowder.

Firing a gun is portrayed on TV and in movies as a fluid and natural action, something that can easily be done with one hand and while running, driving or jumping out of a burning building.

For me it was violent and jarring. The recoil made me worry that the gun was going to jump out of my hands.

I later fired a .45-caliber, which was like being jolted on the tight turns of a rickety roller coaster. My neck and head snapped back, and the gun ended up above my head because of the recoil.

(Bussey was right. The next day, my arms and back were sore, as if I had been lifting weights.)

After stationary target shooting, we had a new challenge. A target with the silhouette of a man's torso and head was programmed to move toward the shooter from 50 feet away at about the speed of someone running.

The instructors told us to yell, ``Stop!'' which in real life would, you hope, get the attacker to pause then shoot five times.

Up to this point, I'd been soaking up the safety rules and gun basics, and I even hit the target with all 10 of my shots during the first practice round with a semiautomatic. I was beginning to feel confident.

When the newsprint target started fluttering toward me, I squeaked ``Stop'' as authoritatively as I could, then squeezed the trigger five times fast.

I missed.

I couldn't even hit a target moving in a straight line in a well-lit room. How was I supposed to shoot a bad guy in a dark parking garage?

I thought: What if I had a concealed gun and was confronted? Would I have the time, not to mention the composure, to pull the gun out, aim and shoot accurately? If I didn't bobble the gun and shoot my foot, there's still no guarantee that the bad guy wouldn't just snatch the gun out of my hands and use it on me.

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Even as a person whose job is to follow the news, there was much I didn't know about Ohio's concealed carry law.

It requires a person with a gun to use any means to ward off an attack before resorting to deadly force. In my confrontation with the bikers, I could have driven to a crowded public place or called the police.

In this state, unlike some others, a gun can be used only when a life is threatened, one's own or someone else's not, for example, to protect property.

And I learned more. My instructors said there's no point in carrying a .22-caliber because the bullets are so small. They don't always kill. Since the only time you'd be using the gun is to protect a life, you'd better make sure your one shot is deadly. That was a chilling thought.

Then there are the rules about where you can't carry a concealed weapon. Police departments, courthouses, churches, schools and many businesses (including my office) don't allow firearms. The Ohio law says the gun must be hidden when you're in public, except if you plan to carry it on your body in the car where it must be in plain sight. Other states have widely varying quirks in their concealed carry laws.

The class made it clearer than ever: Owning a gun is a huge responsibility. Not only do you have to know the law inside and out, not only do you have the cost of the gun itself and firing range time to keep skills current, but you have to keep close tabs on a firearm at all times.

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After thinking it over, I paid $45 and got the concealed carry license.

Why not? I completed the class and scored 100 percent on the open-book test at the end of the day. It's my right as a law-abiding citizen, after all.

The card looks like a driver's license, and I made sure to smile nicely because I knew I'd be showing it to a lot of people. I keep it in my wallet, where it's stuck in a stack of grocery receipts, business cards and dry cleaning tickets. It's a great conversation piece.

I feel better safer with the license.

Maybe one day I'll change my mind and get a gun, too.

(Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
 
criminals do look for people who do look helpless. And if she does look like she can pass for 16 then she could be a target of a rapist.

-Bill
 
It is interesting that she feels better with a concealed carry license, although she does not have a gun.
 
I hope that in 6 months we aren't reading her column entitled "You never know when you will need your gun".
 
It's progess, but this reporter still doesn't "get it". Unless her CCW permit is made of kevlar and big enough to wear as an overcoat, it ain't much good by itself.

And what's all this blither about showing her permit to everybody she meets??
 
What sort of retardedness is this? A CCW itself cant be used for self defense. Most criminals dont even know or care what one is. What they do understand is someone with a gun.

Then again, if it is one of those poisoned ninja permits, I stand corrected.
 
QUOTE "I feel better safer with the license.

Maybe one day I'll change my mind and get a gun, too"

All of the training in the world will be for nought if the equipment is lacking.

If the licence makes her FEEL safer :barf: then she is in for one heck of a shock when the real world knocks on the door. Or busts through it! :evil:

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas
 
I support Anita Chang's decision; I hope she will eventually carry. I myself carry.

But I had to laugh when I read of her being menaced in her speeding car by idiots on bikes. Her car was the weapon of choice in this situation, not a pistol which could have put a bullet into any passing car on the road!

"Officer, a white dog ran across the road and I instinctively braked to miss it. I am so sorry that gentleman on the motorcycle behind me was injured."

I have driven motorcycles and know that for a biker to play games with a car on the highway is suicidal.
 
Good first step getting the permit, but I don’t see how she missed the obvious of actually owning the gun and maybe practicing :what: .

She felt like she was in danger before, but now that she has a license she is ok and safe from the world. :rolleyes: Well written article until the end where she threw me for a loop.
 
You guys are being a bit rough on her. She thought about it and took a very big first step. Imagine how big a deal it is for her to actually fire a handgun when she had been so removed from them that she had never touched one. Lots of us go to the range and fire a full mag or so to warm up. That thought would never even occur to her.

True she doesn't own a gun, but she's at least armed with an attitude now.
 
True she doesn't own a gun, but she's at least armed with an attitude now.
Unfortunately, the WRONG attitude.

"I feel better safer with the license." (sic)

If she feels safer with the license than she did before, then she'll be wandering around in condition white even more than she was before, and as has been pointed out, the license itself is not going to protect her from anybody or anything without the weapon the license says she can legally carry.
 
"Ohio joined 45 other states that allow residents to carry concealed handguns; only Kansas, Nebraska, Wisconsin and Illinois do not."

Wow - NJ is really issuing permits now?!

When did that happen?

(too bad reporters can't get their facts straight - how hard would it be to find out that like 50 people in the whole state have a CCW license and they are all McGreevy's Friends)
 
Wow - NJ is really issuing permits now?!

When did that happen?

(too bad reporters can't get their facts straight - how hard would it be to find out that like 50 people in the whole state have a CCW license and they are all McGreevy's Friends)

On paper, NJ issues both resident and non-resident permits. To a reporter checking the laws, the statement is correct. How the elected and appointed officials carry out the law is a different story.
 
On paper?

Seems to me that if reality conflicts with what's "on paper" that would be even more of a story?

No?

I mean for one of our good "get at the story" reporters?

Those guardians of freedom and truth . . . . .

(now I made myself sick)

It would have been more intelligent of her to distinguish "shall issue" states from states like NJ where permits are available to the politically connected elite only i.e. defacto not available.

It's pretty easy to find a picture simple enough for a dumb reporter to understand: http://www.packing.org/state/index.jsp/all+united+states
 
Between the lines

After thinking it over, I paid $45 and got the concealed carry license.
Why not? I completed the class and scored 100 percent on the open-book test at the end of the day. It's my right as a law-abiding citizen, after all.
I feel better safer with the license.
Maybe one day I'll change my mind and get a gun, too.
She realized her vulnerability, took the class, got a concealed permit, assumed the responsibility of a law-abiding citizen, yet claims that she feels safer with the license without backing it up with a gun? I believe she lied (or the editor did). It can be excused considering who she works for. She was paid to do a piece on getting the permit, and that she did. Getting a gun and carrying it for her own protection is her own business. Consider this: she's gutsy. She progressed from the idea of getting a dog to getting pepper spray & taking boxing lessons. With each step she assumed more personal responsibility for her own defense. She'd made up her mind long before the permit class that she wasn't going to be a victim. As a novice, she was willing to shoot a .45 even after a 9mm felt like "a bomb" going off in her face. I definitely believe that she has a gun. Lots of female gun owners don't discuss what they have, especially if the environment is anti, and some just prefer to keep quiet about it (especially when asked by pollsters). I'm also sure there's a lot more to that biker story than what she's willing to put in print.
 
I don't know how long ago it was, but in recent memory, Kim Du Toit (www.kimdutoit.com) had a email from a reader who'd gone in for training, had done research on guns and stuff, and had simply decided that he didn't feel comfortable getting one.

Mr. du Toit is often... coarse (rightfully so) toward those he calls GFWs (Gun Fearing Wussies) and I fully expected, as I read, for him to tear into this guy. Not so. Mr. du Toit understood the guy's position, and made the important saying that [paraphrased] if you aren't comfortable with a gun, you shouldn't have one.

I only mentioned Mr. du Toit so that y'all know that I didn't come up with the idea I'm supporting, but I think many of you guys are being to harsh on the reporter. Yes, it's a bit ridiculous that she's a CHL/CCL/LTCC holder with no firearm, but it's no business of ours if she doesn't feel competent in the handling of a deadly weapon, it's not ridiculous to feel as though one isn't capable of doing something responsibly and effectively.

I'm not trying to flame anyone or to belittle anyone else's ideas, but c'mon, at least show a little understanding before declaring her "retarded," y'know?

~Slam_Fire
 
"It would have been more intelligent of her to distinguish "shall issue" states from states like NJ where permits are available to the politically connected elite only i.e. defacto not available.

It's pretty easy to find a picture simple enough for a dumb reporter to understand: http://www.packing.org/state/index....l+united+states"




While you're correct, I don't think that was "the point" of the piece. The positive points that I see are, at minimum:

a) Associated Press actually ran the piece.

b) It was picked up by numerous outlets.

c) I've re-read it several times, and although it's far from perfect, I didn't detect any anti-slant.

d) It may actually run in a New Jersey paper or website, intrigue a few people that were on the fence about applying for a N.J. permit, and after they apply and get denied, seriously piss them off, and maybe, just maybe- help towards initiating change in may issue as well as no-issue states.


All in all, I think the piece has lots of positives for our side, and little if any, negatives.
 
I think it was a pretty good pro-gun article. A woman became scared and decided to take a proactive approach by arming herself and being a reporter, decided to publish her story.

She found out that any law abiding citizen in her state can arm themselves if they choose and that choice is totally up to the individual, not the state. She found out that shooting a gun isn't close to what she had witnessed on TV, especially hitting what she was shooting at and that it would take constant practice to remain proficient with a firearm.

Finally, she learned some very important facts about carrying a gun. Primary is gun safety and gun retention. Then she learned that there are certain criteria needed before she can use deadly force.

Unfortunately, the fear she experienced during her confrontation had faded and her fear, ignorance and lack of skill with firearms took its place and she decided that perhaps she didn't really need to carry a firearm for protection. She then convinced herself that having the CCW did increase her safety level. This thought process is the same for people claiming all you need to do is call 911 for help if you get into trouble. By having the license, she can always get a handgun to carry should she think she needed one.

Hopefully, she won't make that decision too late.
 
When my wife and I took a handgun self defense course at Chabot Gun Club, one of the stories our instructor, Steve, told us was of a guy who was in dangerous territory buy said he felt okay because he had a gun--at home. Point is that the gun is no magic talisman to protect you: it is a tool with which one needs to be competent. The CCW is one level farther removed. If the gun is no talisman, then the permit is lesser.

Self delusion. I do appreciate most of the tone of the article except that it did not really express success on the author's part to really get past her fears. Though this may reinforce the fears of other timid souls, at least it validates the concept of CCW.
 
I think it would be best to NOT tell anyone that you have a CCW permit. The less people know, the better. If someone knows that you are armed, and are committed in perpetrating a crime upon you, then they'll most likely just cap you in the head - no questions asked!. The ignorance of others CAN be your friend.
 
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