Saiga 12 vs. SDS BP12

[wally]

I know these are not the "cup of tea" for most readers of this forum, but we were out having fun with the Saiga 12 and SDS BP12 shooting #8 1-1/4oz 1250 fps (claimed) loads at my club's steel plate rack. My friend shot some "slow motion" video with his Galaxy S9 phone and I thought the results were pretty cool. The first two shots are full speed then it drops to slow motion.



I'm really impressed with the SDS BP12, despite having serious issues initially, but they repaired it (paid shipping both ways) and it has been 100% with everything from 1oz 1175 fps loads to 3" 00 buckshot since its return, although I've not shot a lot of buckshot through it.

I'd take a Remington 1100 with an extended mag tube over the Saiga any day, but I'd take the SDS BP12 over anything short of a sub-machine gun inside of 25 yards. On balance I'm a tad faster with the BP12 knocking down the six plates than I am with my full size 9mm SIG P320.

 

[N555]

Anything that makes gun grabbers freak out is my cup of tea.

 

[wally]

Since they returned it from repair I have been extremely happy with it. It had been 100% reliable with every type of ammo I could find from 1 oz #9 to 3" 00 buck (althoug I only shot a few of these monsters) for a bit over 500 rounds blasting steel plates until last time out.

Unfortunately the "Extractor Spring Pin" (#12 on the parts diagram) broke making it useless except as a single shot. Contacted their customer support again, they were very responsive, but seems my one-year warranty had run out (they didn't extend it for the ~5 weeks they had it for repair) Shouldn't be a problem I'll just buy the part, right?

Let this serve as a warning to anyone looking to buy one of the Turkish shotgun brands. This is what I received from them, seems spare parts are unobtainium:

We no longer import the M12 so if the part is not listed on the website it cannot be sold either. We have to request warranties from our manufacturer and can only do so if the customer has a receipt that is within warranty. There is nothing I can do.


Josh Horton

Customer Service Manager

P 865-604-6894

[email protected]

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https://www.sdsimports.com/

https://www.tisas-us.com/

https://www.tokarevusa.com/

It shouldn't be too difficult to fabricate a replacement part, but if you are not an accomplished gun mechanic, you should avoid these brands! The only parts listed on the web site he refers to are for the Tisas 1911.