Same ammo, different guns, different size holes .22

[Cornhusker77]

Nope, no chrono
I tried to catch one in a water jug, but............
I need to round up some jugs I guess.

 

[Cornhusker77]

I set up the video camera on a tripod and loaded the mag with alternating Winchester and Aguila rounds.
Don't make fun of my shooting, I was paying more attention to the holes than my sights. At least that's my excuse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AVYKo8WT0g

 

[Maple_City_Woodsman]

Even if the bullets were upset after exiting the barrel... Am I expected to believe that the base of a tumbling bullet is making clean cookie-cutter holes, of a diameter which is larger than the bore, with never a sign of tumbling?

Cornhusker - Can you indulge us, and upload a second video? Perhaps one where we can see the guns you are shooting?

 

[Geckgo]

When this is all over I have a feeling that some posters will be eating hats.

 

[pockets]

Many people have experienced this with 'Aquila Super Maximum' .22LR cartridges.
I didn't believe it either, so I bought some boxes a couple of years ago and tried it myself from various pocket pistols.
It is very very weird, but it does happen. The resultant holes I got looked just like the ones in the OP's target photo.
YMMV though.
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[hardluk1]

I tried some aguila Sm also a couple years ago and they pinted just like other .22 for me. I think i have tried most 22 ammo over the last couple years and seen some cut paper better than others but never larger or smaller by more than a couple thousands.

 

[rcmodel]

Am I expected to believe that the base of a tumbling bullet is making clean cookie-cutter holes,

Yes, you are expected to believe it.

There is no reason the bullets would be tumbling just because the hollow base expanded.

Think of it as a tiny little badminton shuttlecock.
The expanded base creating drag on the rear end & rifling spin keeps it flying point first.

rc

 

[Tallinar]

Well I'll be a monkey's uncle. Very interesting.

Thanks rc for your investigative thinking.

 

[SN13]

Yes, you are expected to believe it.

There is no reason the bullets would be tumbling just because the hollow base expanded.

Think of it as a tiny little badminton shuttlecock.
The expanded base creating drag on the rear end & rifling spin keeps it flying point first.

This is what makes a "Rifled" slug fly straight. light-airy butt-end. (Not the rifled fins)

 

[788Ham]

Hmmmm, flavor of Kool-Aid?

 

[intercooler]

Tumbling is the only reason I can give. They are keyholing.

Have you tried cleaning the crap out of the guns barrel? De-lead, etc...?

 

[Double Naught Spy]

Tumbling is the only reason I can give. They are keyholing.

I am looking at the picture in the OP. I don't see a single keyhole there.

 

[Cornhusker77]

They aren't keyholing, they are cutting perfectly round holes
Apparently, I'm not the only one who has experienced this with this particular ammo.

 

[ForumSurfer]

Apparently, I'm not the only one who has experienced this with this particular ammo.

I fully intend to search my local stores this weekend while I'm out and about to pick some up. I'll most certainly try it in a couple of rifles, my 22 pistol and my 22 revolver. None are as short barreled as yours, but I'm curious to see if I get the same results.

Edit:: And I'll make sure my 38 and some appropriate ammo are lying next to the target so that the conspiracy theorists can speculate away.

 

[gunsablazin]

I would have to be there to see this for myself. I say the OP is IQ testing us!

 

[usp9]

I did a search on that Aguila ammo and found quite a few people experienceing the same thing

Same ammo, different gun, same result. I even had other people shoot just to make sure I wasn't crazy. I think I posted about this a few years ago.

Here it is;
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=186676&highlight=wadcutter

 

[Cornhusker77]

I fully intend to search my local stores this weekend while I'm out and about to pick some up. I'll most certainly try it in a couple of rifles, my 22 pistol and my 22 revolver. None are as short barreled as yours, but I'm curious to see if I get the same results.

Edit:: And I'll make sure my 38 and some appropriate ammo are lying next to the target so that the conspiracy theorists can speculate away.

I don't know that barrel length is the whole thing, My Walther P22 didn't do it.
But then the Walther doesn't have as tight of a bore.

 

[Cornhusker77]

Same ammo, different gun, same result. I even had other people shoot just to make sure I wasn't crazy. I think I posted about this a few years ago.

Here it is;
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=186676&highlight=wadcutter

I read your post...you had some skeptics too it would seem

 

[TennJed]

Conhusker I am glad to see you proved yourself. A lot of poster were questioning your honestly and you took the high road and agreed that it was a strange thing. A lot of people would have gone a different route and turned this thread into something like a playground name calling.

Impressed with the way you handled the accusations and am hapy to see you proving your honesty!

 

[Cornhusker77]

Conhusker I am glad to see you proved yourself. A lot of poster were questioning your honestly and you took the high road and agreed that it was a strange thing. A lot of people would have gone a different route and turned this thread into something like a playground name calling.

Impressed with the way you handled the accusations and am hapy to see you proving your honesty!

Thanks
In their shoes, I would have had my doubts too

 

[ForumSurfer]

I don't know that barrel length is the whole thing, My Walther P22 didn't do it.
But then the Walther doesn't have as tight of a bore.

Well in that case it should be interesting. My buckmark has a tighter bore than my old worn out high point sentinel revolver.

 

[Cornhusker77]

Well in that case it should be interesting. My buckmark has a tighter bore than my old worn out high point sentinel revolver.

I'm kinda anxious for the weather to straighten up a little so I can try them in a few different guns.
I have about 400 rounds of those left I think

 

[ForumSurfer]

I'm kinda anxious for the weather to straighten up a little so I can try them in a few different guns.
I have about 400 rounds of those left I think

Beautiful blue skies over here...ship 'em on over and I'll let you know how it goes.

 

[T Bran]

I have an entire brick of those and will try it in all 6 of my .22s if one will do the same I cant wait to try it on small game.
T

 

[ForumSurfer]

if one will do the same I cant wait to try it on small game.

I may try to catch one in a water jug. I've never tried that, anyway. This seems like a good excuse to try.

I have a feeling that the base is expanding as others are saying, and that it will be highly delicate. I'm thinking that anything more dense than that plate will cause the expanded rear section to totally disintegrate.