Sammy Davis Jr's pistol anonymously sold to buyback program

[Swing]

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And here is the article: Sammy Davis Jr's pistol anonymously sold to buyback program

I hope it doesn't have a date with the furnace.

 

[M1key]

Well, he's not using it right now...

M

 

[yugorpk]

Stupid is as stupid does.

 

[CLP]

that's a shame

i guess it's destined to be destroyed?

 

[il.bill]

"Typically such 1911 pistols are worth more than $US350 ..."

You think?

 

[ArchAngelCD]

What a disgrace that a gun owned by Sammy Davis Jr might get chopped pivot melted. That gun should be in some sort of museum or memorial, the man was brilliant as were the rest if the Rat Pack.

 

[.45cultist]

While the mechanism that let the police transfer those to SWAT is gone, there are some tricks that can save that pistol and only half are "sketchy", the others are against regs.

 

[TimSr]

Funny this news surfaces in an over seas publication but never saw it in the US. I think a lot of todays Hollywood would rather nobody knew of the pro gun side of some of their icons.

Imagine what his guns would bring at auction, simply because they were HIS. Especially the ones used in film.

 

[danez71]

It did get coverage but it got drowned out by the political noise going on.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-sammy-davis-jr-pistol-gun-buyback-20160511-story.html

http://time.com/4327614/sammy-davis-jr-pistol/



Whats more surprising to me is that in San Juan Capistrano (south Orange County, which is south of LA) a guy shot at police with a full auto... at close range. San Juan Capistrano is kind of a sleepy coastal town known mostly for historic Spanish Missions and the Swallow birds.

This was barely covered by the news. I think a candidates shrill drowned-out the sounds of full auto that day too.

Dash came video and audio.

http://ktla.com/2016/05/12/video-sh...ng-automatic-rifle-at-orange-county-deputies/

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

Man but I'd have loved to have had that!

we sold one of Sammy's older Rolls-Royces some time ago and it would have been too cool to offer that pistol with it.

Or keep it, either way.

Being in the hands of those running the L.A. gun buy-hack program, I don't see it as too likely to be saved for the open market.

I would absolutely love to know the skinny on its changing of hands from the last time Sammy had it until today.


Todd.

 

[Ranger Roberts]

How did they know it was owned by Sammy? Was there an inscription or something? I wish the article had more details.

 

[Darkbob]

I read one article that said it's serial number was registered to him.

 

[yugorpk]

How did they know it was owned by Sammy? Was there an inscription or something? I wish the article had more details.

Ive seen a few of these 60's movie and music stars guns and they all seem to be way over engraved and have their name all over them. I'll bet Sammy's 1911 is the same way.

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

I should think they run all the numbers at least superficially in the case of intercepting a gun with history.

I have a good friend involved in Phoenix's gun lab and the hoops they jump through for every-single-firearm moving through their hands is a daunting operation.


Todd.

 

[danez71]

Originally Posted by Ranger Roberts
How did they know it was owned by Sammy? Was there an inscription or something? I wish the article had more details.

CA has DROS (Dealer Record Of Sale) since, I think, 1991.

Assuming is was acquired since then, it would be in that data base.

 

[yugorpk]

I'm not seeing anything exciting here. Sure, the demise of any firearm is a tragedy but this one is as plane jane as it gets. I expected something a little more auspicious from Sammie. Maybe his rat pack buddies shamed him out of it.

 

[yugorpk]

CA has DROS (Dealer Record Of Sale) since, I think, 1991.

Assuming is was acquired since then, it would be in that data base.

Davis died in 1990.

 

[Sloppy joes]

Into the scrap pile it goes?

 

[danez71]

Davis died in 1990.

.... and after his death, in Beverly Hills CA, his property went to his wife, Altovise, at some point; maybe that year or possibly in 1991.

She then created a will leaving the estate to 2 'legal partners' who she later claimed to be cheating her.

So in 2004 she created another Will using LegalZoom.


She passed in 2009., in Los Angeles.

When she passed, the son Manny, was awarded property in 2010 after a legal battle with those 2 'business partners' in Los Angeles, and won.

It was the 1st big test (high profile) of LegalZoom, that I remember.


I have no way of knowing if that pistol was part of the estate but the time line fits and being all in CA., the DROS system is the most reasonable assumption of how they knew.


Funny though, I cant find (and Ive looked) a single case that was solved with the DROS system being credited as a significant factor.

 

[joem1945]

"that's a shame

i guess it's destined to be destroyed? "

I'll bet it winds up in a cops collection!

 

[pjeski]

It did get coverage but it got drowned out by the political noise going on.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-sammy-davis-jr-pistol-gun-buyback-20160511-story.html

http://time.com/4327614/sammy-davis-jr-pistol/



Whats more surprising to me is that in San Juan Capistrano (south Orange County, which is south of LA) a guy shot at police with a full auto... at close range. San Juan Capistrano is kind of a sleepy coastal town known mostly for historic Spanish Missions and the Swallow birds.

This was barely covered by the news. I think a candidates shrill drowned-out the sounds of full auto that day too.

Dash came video and audio.

http://ktla.com/2016/05/12/video-sh...ng-automatic-rifle-at-orange-county-deputies/

That is not full auto.

 

[yugorpk]

Its bad audio but I dont see anything that would suggest it wasnt full auto

 

[pjeski]

The audio is not that bad, most of the radio comms are intelligible. But what do you see that suggests it is full auto?

 

[Moparnut]

How long has California been registering firearms?

 

[danez71]

That is not full auto.

The audio wasn't good in that link but the original airing was.

There was about 5-6 rapid fire and then about a15ish round ripping string that was definitely full auto. Eddie Van Halens fingers are not even close to being that fast

How long has California been registering firearms?

See post 15.
Since 1991 for hand guns and 2014? for long guns.