savage 10flp failure to extract

[mikec23]

Hello all,
I was at the range yesterday attempting to sight in my savage 10 flp and the last spent cartridge would not eject; the bolt handle would turn, but I couldn't pull it back . A guy there said that the stock (a chaote ultimate varmint) may have been on too tight via the two bolts on the bottom. When i got home I checked by removing the stock assembly and was still unable to pull the bolt back. The gun is brand new. Any suggestions? I was also unable to free the bolt by squeezing the trigger and depressing the bolt release? button; like when you want to take the whole bolt out.

 

[dagger dog]

What caliber,is the rifle?, sounds like the firing of the cartridge has locked up the action, this can be cause by several things ,wrong ammo, overpressure ammo,or may be a defective part in the new rifle, what type ammo were you shooting, factory, mil surplus, handloads, all these could be factors.

 

[mikec23]

the rifle is chambered in .308, I was using milsurp ammo. Argentinean, I believe.

 

[aspade]

Welcome to the world of cheap milsurp, without gas powered extraction you notice these things.

Give the bolt handle a tap rearwards (lift it first) with a rubber mallet and it should break free. Failing that, a cleaning rod or 9/32 dowel down the muzzle with the aforementioned hammer applied to the end of it.

A sharp blow does a better job freeing stuck brass than a steady pull.

 

[goon]

I've seen Argentine surplus lock up a bolt action before.
I'd also try gently applying more force to get the action open.
After that, avoid Argentine surplus (isn't CAVIM the headstamp). Use South African, Portugese, or Lithiuanian and you shouldn't have problems like this.

 

[dagger dog]

The 2 above post have had experiance with the Agentine surplus, this could be your problem, I would give the rubbber mallet thing a try but don't over do it.If that doesn't work find someone (smith) that can check it out he can definitley tell if it's ammo or defective rifle problem.

Breaking in a new rifle is best done wwith the best ammo you can afford, also pick up some literature, or check out futher stickies on how to properly break in a new rifle, you'll find there are as many methods as there are rifles but it shold give you enough info to do it right.

The Savage bolt rifle has the reputation for being one of the most reliable and out of the box accurate rifles bar none you made an excellent choice in the Savage. Don't let this little set back influence you in any way and just chalk it up as a learning experiance

 

[280shooter]

Brand new gun, hard earned money, then you buy and USE junk ammo made for semiautos, well I hope you learned a hard lesson,
Buy the best ammo you can find,and break your rifle in the right way,
And read as much info you can find,just my thoughts,

 

[goon]

In his defense, not all surplus ammo is junk.
I've had great luck with South African and Lithiuanian has been impressing me lately.

But I do agree about the ammo. If nothing else, at least try some of the "bargain" commercial .308 like Federal American Eagle or Remington UMC.

 

[kimberfan]

same thing happened to me the other day using ultramax 168gr HPBT's and i have the same stock (ultimate sniper) i'm gonna clean the chamber and loosen the stock bolts just a fuzz.

 

[Bartkowski]

Buy the best ammo you can find

Ya, I should use lapua or norma ammo. And some match grade for plinking.

Come on now, milsurp is cheap and generally fine.

 

[Ash]

And there is no good reason to expect surplus ammo to be junk. Perhaps it is not suitable for bolt actions, perhaps so. I used PMP 308 for plinking way back when I had a Savage 110FP. It was something like $7.00 a box. I know things are more expensive these days, but there is decent brass-cased commercial ammo out there that can be priced similarly to surplus.

Ash

 

[mikec23]

Hey all,
Thanks for all the replies. I put a kitchen towel over the bolt handle and tapped it with a rubber mallet untiil it came free. seems as though the cartridge had expanded a tad and I couldn't get enough leverage on the bolt to pull it free. Again, thanks for the help.

 

[04JRB]

Good to hear. Hopefully the rifle will give you many years of faithful dependable service with this being the only hiccup.

 

[bogie]

Problem here is that the case expanded, and then didn't "de-expand" to allow extraction.

1) Clean your chamber with a good solvent - does that ammo have varnish or something like that on it? Dry the chamber when through.

2) Don't shoot that crap in that rifle again. Why to people buy nice accurate rifles, and expect decent accuracy out of them, and then shoot crap ammo?

3) Save your lunch money and get a "rudimentary" accuracy handloading kit. You should be able to do it for less than $200. WAY less. You'll also want one box of Lapua brass (you can wear that rifle out with one box if you treat it right), and a bunch of 165 grain Nosler ballistic tips. For powder, use surplus 4895.

It's a good rifle. Feed it well, and it will reward you.

 

[280shooter]

Bingo,thats what i said, feed it well.Maybe your chamber had to much oil ,maybe it being new ,maybe the case had something on it,and thats why it hung up.I just wouldn't shoot mil.sur.in my bolt actions,And i have cases or mil sur,but i wont shoot it in any of my bolt guns,BUT THATS ME
i WOULD reload for that rifle.You would be shocked how well it will shoot,I bet after its broke in, you'll shoot 1/4 in groups