SAVAGE Model 24

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First of all, this is not intended to flame anyone, but is really a proven fact. The 410 is only inferior to a 20 in how much lead it throws out there. They hold a better pattern (much smaller) and carry farther. Much harder to shoot though.
 
First of all, this is not intended to flame anyone, but is really a proven fact. The 410 is only inferior to a 20 in how much lead it throws out there. They hold a better pattern (much smaller) and carry farther. Much harder to shoot though.
The 20 will throw a denser pattern at any distance, with a shorter shot string. It is superior to the 410 in every way. At least in real life.
 
I find the .410 to be a better match to the 22lr, from the stand point of balance and scale. It is more aestheticly pleasing.
In this regard it is superior to the 20 gauge.
There is absolutely nothing I would shoot in the first place with a 410, that could only be cleanly taken with a twenty.
 
Perhaps my feelings on the 410 came as a teenage hunter in which I saw several squirrels and rabbits shot with others 410's but not recovered.
I never really had issues like that with my 20 gauge.
On the other hand a guy was up at the ranch with a SXS 410 during quail season and was literally murdering the quail with that gun.
I was kind of under the impression that the 410 as a dove and quail gun was best left to the expert wing masters.
 
From the bench, the 24 22LR/20 ga I had would do dime sized groups at 50 yards with the rifle barrel. A trigger job and a peep sight helped things along.

The only slug I tried in the 20 gauge barrel was the old Rottweil Brenekke. By sheer happenstance, those grouped close to POI for the 22 barrel at 40 yards. I took a couple does with it. Primarily,though it was for "Minute of Squirrel" shots.
 
It could be an experts gun, but now your just embarassing me.:) Like the sound of WINGMASTER, got a nice ring to it.

Brother shot a dove with , a 410 2 falls ago, out of a contender. It was fairly impressive.
I don't know how he can always pull off these shots and with witnesses. If I do it nobody for miles.
 
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I find the .410 to be a better match to the 22lr, from the stand point of balance and scale. It is more aestheticly pleasing.
In this regard it is superior to the 20 gauge.
There is absolutely nothing I would shoot in the first place with a 410, that could only be cleanly taken with a twenty.
A case of à chacun son goût, I suppose.

So let me be more specific:

The 20 ga is ballistically superior to the 410 in every quantifiable way.
 
Thats more like it. (I really got no idea what your saying, its even worse when you speak french.)
 
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I have a few .410's besides being generally smaller/handy for snake type guns, they are better than most any other gauge at one thing, getting more money out of my wallet per box of shells.
 
I have a Savage 24 in .30-30 over 12 gauge. Not as handy to carry as the .22 over .410 variety. I tried it out with IC choke tube with these results using same sight picture for rifle and slugs:
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Ironically, the only real use I have gotten with it is shooting it with a full choke tube at turkey shoots.
 

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It's true, every once in a while, a 24 will have the bbls regulated, at least decent. BUT the chances of getting one that's regulated is pretty slim and that's a fact.

The regulation may be off to the side? High? low? You never know until you try it. Many owners are reporting the center of the shot pattern off by 12" or more and many times it's off to the side. None of that is acceptable to me, as i depend on my firearms, they aren't "just another expensive toy for the pile".

It's too bad Savage didn't just get it right in the first place!

DM
 
DM,I have noticed over the years by looking at different Savage catalogues that how the barrels were braced together or welded differs from one time span to another.
Wonder if certain ones were better than others.
In other words perhaps models built in the 1960's vs the 1970's or 80's.
 
Regulation problems are all over the board with the 24's, it's really is the luck of the draw.

The ones i've owned/fired, the rifle bbls were decent to quite good, and that's why guys brag on them so much. They just figure the bird shot will cover the rifle group no matter where it hits, but i need to see the CENTER of that shot go over the rifle rounds, NOT just over the edge of them.

Most shooters don't shoot well enough to even know what's going on, and they won't get any better with a shotgun like that!

DM
 
Tell you what....all of you guys that have the Savage 24's that poo poo their performance and don't like the way they shoot: List them here on The High Road for sale at any price below solid gold,..and I'll bet you will have NO problems selling them.

If you happen to have a 30/30 over 12,..or a 30/30 over 20 gauge,...or a .22 magnum over 20 gauge,..that you'd like to part with,.....PM me,...we may be able to work out something to take that old beater off your hands so's not to give you any further grief.

:)
 
Now that is a plan. Anyone so mad at theirs they'd trade it for a yellow cat. I'll throw in 2 parakeets for boot.
 
When I was a teenager, I had a informal contest with a guy with a .22/20 gauge Savage 24. I was shooting a .22 LR Ruger semi-auto pistol with a 6" barrel. I won. When you have a pistol that beats a rifle, you know you have an inaccurate rifle. I later bought a Model 24 and confirmed that accuracy was only fair. I just recently sold the 24.
 
I have the 24 Delux version in 22 Mag/20 ga. The 22Mag is pretty accurate. Bought in late 50's new for $39.75 at a hardware store in PA. It's a good gun.
 
.22/20 guage 24 C cartridge sling

Does anyone know where this sling can be purchased? I have the original carry case but would like to make the package complete.
 
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