Hi all, long story short, I'm wondering which (in you guys opinions) is the best overall rifle out of the following, Savage 14, Savage 16, Remington 700 sps tactical? All of them are around the same price here in New Zealand (about $1400 NZ), and i do have my heart set on .308win! And yeah, $1400 NZ is about $995 US at the moment, which I think is expensive, judging by Savage's and Remington's websites, but never mind. Ive been doing trapshooting and small bore shooting (both of which i enjoy) and want this new rifle for taking deer at long(ish) (as my only centrefire rifle is a mosin nagant m91/30). Thanks guys.
savage vs remington
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C-grunt
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Tom.. welcome to THR!
I gotta admit first here that I am a bit biased towards the Savage line. They are superbly accurate and well made.
Of your three listed rifles, I like the Savage 14 the best. Very nice looking rifle with the wood. Should shoot very accurate too.
The 16 would be a good choice if you prefer synthetic stocks.
The Remington SPS Tactical gets good reviews for accuracy as they use the same action and barrel as the 700 Police models. But I got to warn you that many here in the US have been noticing a decline in Remingtons quality control.
I gotta admit first here that I am a bit biased towards the Savage line. They are superbly accurate and well made.
Of your three listed rifles, I like the Savage 14 the best. Very nice looking rifle with the wood. Should shoot very accurate too.
The 16 would be a good choice if you prefer synthetic stocks.
The Remington SPS Tactical gets good reviews for accuracy as they use the same action and barrel as the 700 Police models. But I got to warn you that many here in the US have been noticing a decline in Remingtons quality control.
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My old Savage 10FP sure did have a free floating barrel. But that was one of their "tactical" models so it would be. I cant tell you about their hunting rifles as Im not a big game hunter.
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Not sure whether this matters to you, but it did to me.
Remington 700 SPS Tactical does not have a removable box magazine.
Savage Model 10 Precision Carbine has a 4 round removable box magazine. This Savage also features accutrigger and accustock and a 20" barrel.
Remington 700 SPS Tactical does not have a removable box magazine.
Savage Model 10 Precision Carbine has a 4 round removable box magazine. This Savage also features accutrigger and accustock and a 20" barrel.
I have two Model 14's and an older (60's) Model 700 and like them all.
The Remington (6mm Rem) has had a trigger job and both Savages (.204 Ruger & .223 Rem) had target crowns machined onto them.
I personally like the accu-trigger but they aren't quite as nice as a good customized factory trigger, the blade you depress to get started just didn't feel natural to me but I've gotten used to it.
I can't attest to the newer 700's other than the fit and finish I've seen at the store doesn't impress me.
The Model 14's are free-floated. Best wishes, personally I'd go with Savage.
The Remington (6mm Rem) has had a trigger job and both Savages (.204 Ruger & .223 Rem) had target crowns machined onto them.
I personally like the accu-trigger but they aren't quite as nice as a good customized factory trigger, the blade you depress to get started just didn't feel natural to me but I've gotten used to it.
I can't attest to the newer 700's other than the fit and finish I've seen at the store doesn't impress me.
The Model 14's are free-floated. Best wishes, personally I'd go with Savage.
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Run a search here and you'll hours and hours of reading fun, and you'll see a clear preference among the illuminated masses for Savage, even among former Remington fans. And on the SPS-T plan on the extra money to replace the stock. Even Remington junkies will tell you it is crap and must be fixed, and that's assuming you find a new SPS that doesn't have something wrong with it.
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The accu-stock plus accu-trigger sells it for me.
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I have owned and shot Savage of various sorts for 50 years.
Some are downright ugly, but they all have been dependable and accurate.
I buy Remington for the looks. They are no more dependable, and sometimes do not shoot as well.
In my limited experience, considering only recent manufacture, I prefer Savage.
Some are downright ugly, but they all have been dependable and accurate.
I buy Remington for the looks. They are no more dependable, and sometimes do not shoot as well.
In my limited experience, considering only recent manufacture, I prefer Savage.
I currently have 3 M700s: a Tactical .308, a Police .308 and a Varmint .223. All three have been reliable, and very accurate even with factory ammo, and mil surp ammo. Both the Tactical and the Police average between 0.25" and 0.50" at 100 yards. The only have one Savage, the Mark II .22LR. So I can't give a fair comparison. In my experience, the current Remington's have been excellent.
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Savage 14/114, 16/116, Have floated barrels and can be had with detachable box magazines, if you need more rounds in the mags, Sharp Shooters Supply sells a Savage magazine attachment that will extend the factory magazine capacities. He also sells complete extended magazines for the Savage rifles which utilize the DBM.
The Savages have an excellent track record for durability and accuracy, generally shooting far tighter groups than other brand rifles right out of the box, with no tinkering or modifications needed. Also the Savage Customer Service is light years ahead of Big Greens!
The recent (last 5 years, or so) Remingtons have had their problems. Although a pretty rifle, quality is lack and they seem to be a hit or miss type deal, you may get a good one...you may not, most have not.
If you desire a Remington, try to find an older unit or at least a two year old Police Model, these seem to be more hit than miss.
The weather warrior (Stainless Steel) (16/116) line of Savage come with the Accustock and Accutrigger, and while I prefer the 'housed' type trigger, the Accutrigger is excellent for a factory trigger and easily adjustable, and safe! by the end user. Also the bolt knobs are user changeable on all Savages and quite easy to do so, if you would require a 'tactical' or other configuration of the bolt handle.
Barrels on the Savage line can be changed by the owner, although it does require some tools and a small bit of aptitude and knowledge.
Either brand, along with several other brands make for a fine deer rifle.
The Savages have an excellent track record for durability and accuracy, generally shooting far tighter groups than other brand rifles right out of the box, with no tinkering or modifications needed. Also the Savage Customer Service is light years ahead of Big Greens!
The recent (last 5 years, or so) Remingtons have had their problems. Although a pretty rifle, quality is lack and they seem to be a hit or miss type deal, you may get a good one...you may not, most have not.
If you desire a Remington, try to find an older unit or at least a two year old Police Model, these seem to be more hit than miss.
The weather warrior (Stainless Steel) (16/116) line of Savage come with the Accustock and Accutrigger, and while I prefer the 'housed' type trigger, the Accutrigger is excellent for a factory trigger and easily adjustable, and safe! by the end user. Also the bolt knobs are user changeable on all Savages and quite easy to do so, if you would require a 'tactical' or other configuration of the bolt handle.
Barrels on the Savage line can be changed by the owner, although it does require some tools and a small bit of aptitude and knowledge.
Either brand, along with several other brands make for a fine deer rifle.
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