Save me from "The Dark Side."

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I got my first G17 when I wanted to save money on ammo. I now have 3 of them. They may not be the prettiest guns in the safe, but it's a shooting range, not a fashion show.

Besides...here on the dark side you'll save money on sunblock.

Jubei
 
I'm all 1911 on the inside and the thumb safety is my gas pedal.
I was however tempted by the darkside too and I caved.
Look at it like this... A fine 1911 is like a classic car that's great to drive, gets lots of ooohs and ahhhs and heads turning every time you take it out of the garage.
Do you take your family on cross country trips in that 61 vette? No. You take the Honda Accord that you've already put 80k miles on and never had a single break down. Nobody looks at it with envy, or even notices it at all, but you take comfort in knowing that it's going to perform as intended and your family isn't going to be sweating their tails off on the shoulder in Death Valley in August waiting on AAA.
The Glock is your Honda Accord.
 
I've never understood all this Glock-hatred & Glock-worship that goes on. :confused: Lots of people can't enjoy what they have unless they talk down what the other guy has, maybe that's part of it.

If you're interested in a Glock, I'll just say you could do one heckuva a lot worse. I would say that before you buy a G 17, look at & handle(& shoot, if possible) a Glock 19. I've owned a Glock 22(the .40 cal version of the G 17)for over 10 yrs.

Lessee: it points well for you, comes in good calibers, needs minimal care, is reasonably priced, & the huge majority of them are absolutely reliable right out of the box. Why would anyone want one of those? :D If you think you might carry it, consider the 19 or 23(or other "compact" models). If it's gonna be strictly a range & house gun, maybe the standard size 17 or 22(or others) will be better for you. If you want a real "hoss", there's the slightly bigger 20(10mm) & 21(.45 ACP).

Or you could save some $$ & find yourself a nice used one! ;)
 
I think that there are two typed of treads that get the highest view/reply count and, those are treads that pertain to 1911's and glock's. I have one of each in my meager collection, a G26 and a Kimber Custom II. Somehow someway the both of them have gotten along great. The G26 is my carry piece and will always be my carry piece until it falls apart. I doubt it though. After the hollocaust, the roaches will be toting around glocks. As far as the yuppie thing goes, maybe they don't have the time or patience to jack with a gun that isn't reliable out of the box. I only have two hundres rounds through my Kimber but, it has only one FTE. Out of 4400 rds. through my G26, I've had no feed or ejection problems. It did have one failure for the trigger to reset and a light primer strike. All that occured after putting the a Glock factory 3.5# connector. I have since put the stock one back in and haven't had a problem in over 2400 rds. since. As far as the grip angle and trigger goes, those are things that one gets used to with time and practice. My wrist isn't fused in one place. I, like other human beings have the ability to be able move my wrist in such a way that allows me to be able to pick up different types of guns at the range with different grip angles and shoot them with equal degrees of accuracy. Maybe that's why there are those thing called sights on the top of the slide. I've gone over 1000 rds. without cleaning or oiling my G26 except for shooing it at the range, and I still trust it enough to carry it. If you want a gun with no fuss out of the box, then get a glock. It is robust, reliable, utilitarian, accurate, and simple. If you want a "ohh ahh" gun to show off to your friends then get a nice blued and wood gripped 1911. I don't care how ugly my glock is. It is a CCW peice and it works. If it gets lost, stolen or taken by the po-po, there is another one at the gun store just like it. Don't let anyone talk you out of a glock except yourself. Try one out for yourself as see if you like it or not.

Flip.

Oh BTW, the dark side if great :p .
 
all 3 of my 1911's have been utterly reliable to date. But so has my xd.

I've got nothing in particular against glocks though
 
It amuses me that people are so superficial about a life saving tool.

If you were going to buy a defibrillator for your car/office would you care what it looked like?

The Glock, like the AR has "functional elegance".
 
Actually Ulflyer, I did say what she liked. She liked the Makarov. Being a totally practical woman she likes that it is (1) inexpensive, (2) goes bang every time she (or I) has pulled the trigger, and (3) hits where it's pointed.
 
We are Glock.

Resistance is futile.

You will be assimilated!!!


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Ignore Alpha. Enter the 21st century along with the rest of us. Don't pay attention to the anti-progress Luddites.
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Hehe, Glunks are pretty antiquated compared to the tactical combat tupperware out there nowadays. They are reliable firearms, but I think they're priced too high for what you get.
 
Ahem...

"Darksider" and similar terms refer to Black Powder shooters, not black plastic shooters. :p

If you want to try the Darkside, you will need the Holy Black, or suitable substitute if that is all you can get.

Somehow, I rather doubt those newfangled self-shuckers are up to shooting Darkside style. Not for very long anyway. But imagine the expression on the face of the range officer as you blast away in an IPSC match using a 1911 and BP-stuffed .45ACP ammo. :what:
 
I can't save you. I finally fell to the DS (G19) and now wish I had 3 or 4 more.
 
The Glock goes BANG when you need it to.
Is it ugly...maybe. Glock doesn't care what they look like, they were designed to spec (form follows function). It's a hammer. Can you buy a gold plated hammer with a mahogany handle and GPS? Probably. Is it a better hammer for driving nails? No.

I say you should shoot as many rounds through as many guns as you can before you buy. Buy the one that you shoot best, after all, isn't that what really counts?
 
I won't try to talk you into or out of a Glock, but I strongly suggest you actually shoot one before buying.

"Feel" is subjective and sometimes deceptive. Glocks feel pretty good in my hand but I have no handgun I shoot worse than my Glocks (17 & 21, nothing wrong with the guns as they shoot great off a rest). OTOH, Taurus PT92 feels clunky to me but I shoot it very well.

Since installing 3.5lb trigger connectors I can now shoot them well enough to not embarass myself, but I question if these are safe to carry in this configuration since Glock won't sell them setup like this except for one "target" model.

--wally.
 
Can you buy a gold plated hammer with a mahogany handle and GPS? Probably. Is it a better hammer for driving nails? No
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No but you can buy a new style 'weight forward' estwing ergonomic hammer, for a little more money, and expect it to be more instinctive and easier to use than a $5 made in taiwan hammer.
Hammering all day with one of those is like a vacation.
http://www.estwing.com/newproducts.htm

There's always a better mousetrap.
Go to your local store, try a new estwing, and a regular hammer, the difference is amazing! A hammer is not just a hammer unless it's a cheap hammer.
Same thing with a handgun.
If you can't feel the difference from one gun to another, you need to try a different gun. One that calls out to you, and feels right in your hands.
Life is just too short to use cheapo hammers, .99 cent slip-joint pliers, or guns with no soul.
 
My handle gives away my position

And I'll say the same about Glocks I've said about Ruger autos. They seem well made and reliable, but they don't fit me and I shoot them like @&%#. Rent or borrow one, if you like it after a couple hundred rounds, heaven help you. If you don't, you can come back here for the official "I told you so". :p
 
"I'm all 1911 on the inside and the thumb safety is my gas pedal.
I was however tempted by the darkside too and I caved.
Look at it like this... A fine 1911 is like a classic car that's great to drive, gets lots of ooohs and ahhhs and heads turning every time you take it out of the garage.
Do you take your family on cross country trips in that 61 vette? No. You take the Honda Accord that you've already put 80k miles on and never had a single break down. Nobody looks at it with envy, or even notices it at all, but you take comfort in knowing that it's going to perform as intended and your family isn't going to be sweating their tails off on the shoulder in Death Valley in August waiting on AAA.
The Glock is your Honda Accord"

That is a good post. Too bad so many people can not see the logic of buying what works over what is pretty.
 
You take the Honda Accord that you've already put 80k miles on and never had a single break down. Nobody looks at it with envy
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I understand what you are getting at, but you picked a bad example, Honda Accord is one of the most stolen vehicles nationwide, so seems lots of folks envy it, or plenty are breaking down creating a large demand for chop shop parts.

The 1911 works best for me, If a Glock works better for you, bully for you, but its about the worst gun for me.

I've an Armscor 1911-A2 widebody 9mm for cheap shooting, and the mags are much easier to load to full capacity than my Glock 17 mags :)

--wally.
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The next thing you know our cars & trucks will have window stickers with Calvin peeing on Glocks, 1911's and any other type of gun disliked by the driver. Brother, I don't know about you, but to me, that kind of crap gets old!!

Whatever gun you or your wife chooses (especially if she is going to shoot it), make sure it is comfortable to hold, has rock solid dependability, is hopefully made by a reputable manufacturer with a good warranty and is accurate with standard ammunition. Try all kinds of guns before you buy. Don't give in to all the hype you read in the magazines, books or read from all of our varied opinions about different guns and calibers in this or any other forum.
After all....it's your life that you are protecting with whatever gun you choose!!!
 
Go ahead and get it.

I carry a G19 -- for good reasons. It is a good, reliable durable weapon. I pulled it out of its kydex IWB holster Saturday at the range after spending almost all day outdoors in 98 degree heat and high humidity, hidden in an IWB kydex holster. It was literally dripping salt and sweat.

I fired 31 rounds, rapid fire at a target at 15 yards, keeping all shots in the black.

No signs of rust ever, the thing requires only simple quick maint., etc.

For a Concealed handgun, it is a great option.

I still love and play with 1911's and other guns. I carry a Glock.
 
Anther vote for "just get the darn thing and get it over with".

The only way you will ever know for certain what to think of a Glock is to own one and shoot it.

You will either love it or hate it. Pick a side and move on.

I have always been a fan of glocks for their function...not looks. Bottom line is they work. Even the most die hard "haters" will admit they work. The arguments are always the standard "it's plastic", "its ugly", "it's not what JMB would use".

Worse case scenario is you end up selling it or trading it. Small price to pay for first hand knowledge.

I just picked up a model 21 last week. 13 rounds of 45 ACP goodness in every mag. I have 200 rds through it so far. Not one hicup. No "break in" problems. Goes bang every time.

BTW....
I am also a fan of 1911s. I have owned various ones over the years. I currently have a Kimber Classic Stainless Target that has been a fantastic handgun and will never be traded or sold.

See..you can have it both ways. Glocks and 1911s in the same collection. It's true...we all can get along. :neener:
 
haha i have nothing in particular against glocks, but suggest the xd because in my mind it has out glocked the glock--just as reliable, etc, only $120 or more cheaper at my local store.
 
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