Scenario--Metropolitan Shootout

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Doug.38PR

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This might very well have some technical flaws in it. Feel free to correct me in your responses.

Suppose you are a police officer on patrol with your partner in downtown Smileyville America :) it's a cold winter day about 12:05 pm and the lunch hour has started when suddenly you get a call from the dispatcher saying: (to copy from Adam 12) "One Adam-12, One Adam-12 shots fired at Family Law Center at San Francisco and Washington avenue. sniper fire reported from all four sides of the building on lower floors. 2 men with guns returning their fire. Officer down. several civilians down. Shots fired inside Family Law Center, men with guns storming through building.

You arrive a block from the Family Law Center right across the street from the county courthouse and your car comes to a screetching halt as a bullet or two strikes the windshield. Your partner grabs the shotgun and you whirle the car up on the sidewalk to give it some concealment. Both of you exit the vehicle and make your way to the corner to see that 3 other units with about 4 or 5 other officers are already on the scene. Several sheriff deputies who were at the courthouse have also responded.
You are the senior ranking police officer on the scene (since FLC is a county building it might be that it is county jurisdiction, but for the for now lets assume you are in charge).
The officers are largely keeping out of range of the gunfire but are for the most part concentrated on the same corner. The officers already on the scene have given you bits and pieces of what you are about to see. You peer around the corner to view the front walk area of the FLC (about 100 yards from your side of the street to park the front of the FLC building to the front of the building itself). You see the following:

1) gunfire from the the third floor building on the front side facing you.
2) gunfire from the same floor on the side of the building on the street you are on just up the block on your right.
3) people still trying to flee the building getting shot at.
4) You see about 25 yards away just around the corner on your block just across from the FLC building a sheriff deputy down with a woman with some apparent medical experience tending a wound.
5) A man with the deputies 1911 .45 standing behind a tree a few yards away returing the sniper's fire to provide cover for people fleeting.
6) A deputy across the street on the FLC block pinned down behind a concrete wall occasionally putting down some fire from his .38 Special revolver to provide additional cover.
7) On the far block on the far side of the front of the FLC in a parking lot full of cars you see a man pinned down with an AR-15 returning sniper fire from the third story window on the front, and appears to be shifting his fire from there to the side left of the building closest to him as well as the front.
8) You see another man with a deer rifle with a scope trying to pick off one of the snipers on the front a few cars away from the man with the AR-15.
9) You can still hear shots fired from inside the building.

You get radio reports from another unit on the far block of the FLC opposite you saying that there is sniper fire from that side too. It has been confirmed that their is sniper fire from the central third floor window on all four sides of the building. (the building is about 20 stories high)

The SWAT team is supposed to be on the way. Normally they would arrive within 10 minutes but traffic is bad and street construction downtown is, as always, a nightmare so it maybe longer. People are fighting and dying now. What do you do? What instructions do you give? Do you deploy the other officers? What do you do? What about those "dangerous" (so say some in this forum) civilians using guns publicly? What about the people still trying to flee the building? What can we (non police) expect to happen?

Go down further to see what all is happening and who the other players are apart from you and your officers with you and the next question of this thread:
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>Islamic terrorists have decided to launch a Jihad on the courthouse building. About noon, fifteen men entered the Family Law Center wearing jackets and trench coats. The first thing they did was produce uzzies, carbine AR-15s and shotguns and mow down the worthless unarmed metal detector people with their wands, pocket stuff bowls and gates and the guard that was standing there fussing at somebody for having a pocketknife and pencil on their person. :rolleyes: (lot of good they were.) Some bozo judge's false sense of security bites the dust at the expense of four human lives the first of sadly many.

The gunmen then hurry upstairs via elevator and stairs and storm the third floor killing anyone they see with the men with carbines breaking out a window on each side (about two men on each side). Their purpose is to hold off police help from reaching the building in time to achieve their objective of killing as many people as possible and to keep their victims from leaving the building.

The other gunmen are working their way through every floor shooting whoever they see. A handful of deputies armed with revolvers and semi automatic handguns are still inside the building doing what they can but many have already been shot responding to gunfire on the lower floors.

Outside,
Deputy Dave Thomas was walking back from an early dinner when a .223 bullet struck him in the chest and he collapsed to the sidewalk across the street.
Wendy King, a nurse at the city hospital was enjoying her day off walking from her apartment to meet her husband John Burger King at TGI Fridays a few blocks away when she saw Deputy Thomas hit. She with the help of attorney Perry Mason who was leaving the courthouse walking back to his car pulled Thomas behind a bus stop hut out of view from the snipers.
She began tending his wounds as best she could.
Perry Mason upon seeing people across the street being dropped one by one fleeing the building then unholsters Thomas' 1911 A-1 and takes his two magazines and dashes behind a tree a tree some yards away to provide cover fire.
Wendy King pulls her cell phone from her purse and calls 911 and tells the police dispatcher what his going on, an officer is shot, sniper fire, Mr. Mason returning fire with the deputy's gun and the need for medial assistance.

On the other side of the street, Deputy Ronald McDonald was walking across the street from the courthouse to the Family Law Center on business when the shooting broke out. Two bullets struck the sidewalk next to him and he ducked behind a concrete wall in front of the FLC. He pulls his S&W M-15 and returns fire as best he can to also aid the people fleeing the building.

Mr. Tom J. Jackson was an average guy who parked in front of the FLC to go check some probate info on his grandmother who died a few months ago when sniperfire erupted. He couldn't escape. If his car even started moving, it would be one of the first things drilled by the snipers. Traffic around the block was already starting to halt as drivers paniced and swerved or stopped and people exited to get to cover behidn other cars in the lot or behind the short concrete wall aligning the park in front of the building. Nowhere for Mr. Jackson to go. He could see that men were shooting from each side of the building that were visable to him. Bullets were showering down trying to hit him, people under cover around the lot and people fleeing the building. He pulled his AR-15 out from under the back seat, pulled the 30 round magazine from the glove compartment and tried pick of or at least suppress the sniper fire. In between this all, he pulls out his cell phone reports what is going on to the dispatcher, where he is and what he and what the stranger with the deer rifle a few cars down the lot is doing.

Mr. Bobby L. Dabney, a good man who liked to hunt was exiting his car about to go into the courthouse when gunfire erupted on the outside of the FLC. He was in the same situation as Jackson. He pulled his scope mounted 30-06 bolt action from the back of his pickup and tried to pickoff the snipers.

People fleeing the building are those who were able to hide and slip down stairways and make their way outside the building. Some of them got on the phone as they heard the shots or were in hiding and called the police to tell the dispatcher what was going on inside the building.

So there is the story. There are the players. The next question is this. What can be done to prevent this from happening again? More security? Disarming the public? Strip searching everyone who enters the building? OR allowing free carry for everyone who desires to own a gun whereever they choose to carry?
 
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yeah...

...if you cannot even spell "scenario", I'm not going to read the painfully long post.

Better luck next time.
 
Thanks for taking the time to write an interesting scenario. It's not going to be appropriate to discuss the TTPs involved in an active shooter response here.

I'm going to close this. If you want to discuss your second question, PM me and I'll move thew thread to Legal and Political where that subject would be on topic.

Jeff
 
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