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Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Grubby, Feb 4, 2012.

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  1. Grubby

    Grubby Member

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    Hello,
    I am looking at purchasing a scope for my rifle I want a quality scope so here are some of the scopes I have thoguht about.
    Zeiss Conquest
    Bushnell Elite & Elite 6500
    Leupold VX II & VX3
    Nikon Monarch
    Burris Black Diamond
    Any others you would and to the list? I will be doing shooting from 100-500 yards and plan to have a 4-14ish range of magnification with a 40-42mm objective lens.
     
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  2. edwin41

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    hello
    maby you could look at some scopes on ebay , some good deals there !
     
  3. Damon555

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    If you do a search there are about 1000 threads on this very topic......
     
  4. joed

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    One other scope I'll add and that is Weaver. I've never really liked them but a few years ago I tried their target model. I now have 2 and they are decent. Yes, I'd buy another and I'm a Leupold slut.
     
  5. kaferhaus

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    The Zeiss can't be beat for the money. Much better glass than the Leupold's on your list.
     
  6. Abel

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    +1 on Zeiss.
     
  7. jpwilly

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    All those will work, you mentioned a rifle but no details. Hunting rifle? Chambering? etc could help you much better if you mentioned those details.
     
  8. Skyshot

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    All good choices, I would add Sightron SII and SIII to that list.
     
  9. Grubby

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    Hunting/Coyote Rifle. Chambered in 6.5-06 ackley improved. Maybe some target shooting with my friends, but other than that mostly hunting.
     
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    I would agree to check out the Sightrons. I just purchased an SIII and a Big Sky and love them both. I did a lot of research before deciding on them and I feel that I made the right decision. Nightforce would have been nice, but a bit out of my budget.

    There currently is a $75 rebate on select Big Sky models. I think it may run through March

    Good luck with whatever you decide on
     
  12. slowr1der

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    The Zeiss Conquest or the Burris Black Diamond would be my two choices.

    The Burris FFII have better glass than the Leupold VX-II's and the Nikon Monarchs, and it's Burris's lower model than the Black Diamond. The BD is no comparison for the others on the list other than the Conquest. I think you would be happy with either of those two.
     
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    I prefer Nikon, and have high praise for the Bushnell Elites.

    I also like Weavers.

    Burris has been a disappontment to me, and while I like Leupold, I think they are overpriced for what you get, and the lower-priced versions (VX-I, VX-II) are not that great.

    Overall, I prefer the Nikon ProStaff or Monarch. Great glass.

    Go to Optics Planet.com and read some reviews!
     
  14. jmr40

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    The Zeiss @ $400 is the by far the most scope for the money. I also like Leupold. They aren't quite as clear and sharp optically, but are probably the toughest scope for hard use. I trust them to keep working after anything else fails.
     
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    ive got 2 elites and love them. i put the 6-24-50 4200 mildot on my mauser build. its a great scope. it cost me 450 shipped on ebay. i have the 3200 5-15-40 on my 7mag for hunting
     
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    Love my Zeiss. +1 on the Conquest.
     
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    For use in the feild when it involves trudging through the woods, it's hard to beat a Leupold for durability. I'd go with a VX-III 4.5-14x for your purposes. That's the one I topped my .25-06 with, been extremely happy. It's a good multi-purpose scope, not too much or too little in the magnification department.

    I like the Monarchs, Weavers, Bushnell Elites, I just don't believe they're as tough as a Leupold. They have excellent clarity just like the Leupolds, but it seems other quality scopes in the same price range as a given Leupold will have higher magnification with less durability. Leupolds can take a hit. And then some.
     
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    Of those you've listed, I own and use both the Zeiss Conquest and Nikon Monarch and like them both, albeit that I would give the Zeiss a slight edge optically. My personal experience with the Leupolds is that I would choose either of the aforementioned scopes over a VX-II. The VX-III is another issue altogether, though they are higher priced than either the Conquest or Monarch.

    I personally would not consider any Nikon scope below the Monarch tier level. And frankly, I'd take an older Leupold Vari-X over the newer VX's, but that's just me.

    Steve
     
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    Can I ask why? Because the change to VX designation basically brought them all up a tier. Vari-X II became VX-I, Vari-X III became VX-II, etc.
     
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    Zeiss Conquest is a great scope,but the Sightrons will give them a run for the money.
    Weaver Super Slam is also a very good scope.
     
  21. stellarpod

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    MachIVshooter: My apologies for not being more clear. Your statement that the VX designation "basically brought them all up a tier" is true to a degree, but is not quite that simple. My experience with Leupold glass is in the Vari-X III models only. And I have found several opportunities to purchase new-old stock Vari-X III's priced very competitively with the VX-II.

    The implication is that the newer VX-II is the equivalent of the older Vari-X III and I would suggest that it is not. The VX-II includes Multicoat 4 coatings on the exterior lenses only (using magnesium flouride on all others), while the Vari-X III scope is fully multi-coated with Multicoat 4. Furthermore, my experience has been that, mechanically the power ring and focus are smoother on the Vari-X III examples I've owned when compared to the VX-II's I've examined.

    Regarding the VX-III; I've seen several accounts of problems with these scopes, which I believe resulted in Leupold's introduction of the VX3. By most accounts this is a superior scope to the VX-III with internal design changes. Admittedly, I have no firsthand experience with them.

    In summary, I believe that, contrary to the common belief that everything got *bumped up a tier*, a Vari-X III is still superior to a VX-II and can be had for a similar price if one looks around. Admittedly these deals are probably not as forthcoming as they used to be. The VX3 is substantially more expensive than either (and more than the Zeiss Conquest and Nikon Monarch as well). As with all optic buying decisions, the individual will have to determine to their own eye whether the optical quality warrants the added expense.
     
  22. finnwolf64

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    The latest scope I purchased was the Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x50mm. I own a few Leupolds & I consider the Zeiss has a slightly crisper image. That said, there is certainly nothing wrong with Leupold scopes.
     
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    I'd look at Weavers. I have Burris, Nikon, and Bushnell on various rifles, but the Weavers I own seem to offer the best optics/mechanics for the price.
     
  24. bman940

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    Grubby, If you are looking at a Nikon MONARCH 3-12 or 4-16 consider a BDC reticle to aid you in shooting past 200 yards. Also, make sure you check out NIkon's Spot On Ballistic Program, it's free to use and will give you the correct distances for your BDC circle's taking your ammo and atmospheric condition's into consideration. This system really does work and work well. I've seen guy's shoot 4 inch jar's of Tannerite at 600 yards using stock rifles, BDC Scope's and Spot On. If you reload you can add your custom info to get accurate results for your particular ammo.
    Here's an example of what you can expect to see.

    http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd363/bman940/257WMSO.png
     
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