Zeiss Conquest VS Leupold VX 3 VS Nikon Monarch

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I am looking at putting a good scope on a bolt action hunting rifle. I am narrowing the choices down to Nikon Monarch, Zeiss Conquest, and Leupold VX 3.

I'm looking at roughly 3-9 X scopes for general hunting purposes. The Zeiss Conquest is 3-9, Leupold VX 3 is 2.5-8, and the Nikon Monarch is roughly the same. They are all within 100 dollars in price.

Which would you pick? I've heard good things about the new VX 3 scopes and also the Zeiss Conquest.
 
Their all good, but Leupold's warranty is insanely good. Not sure how Ziess and Nikon does theirs, but with the three being comparable, I'd go with the better warranty.
 
Leupold is always my default, and that's not just being jingoistic. Unparalleled customer service, better build quality than Nikon. Zeiss does optics well but the current value of the dollar sways the value equation toward Leupold IMO.
 
VX-3. I have a Monarch, and it's a nice scope, but Leupold is better. I ended up with that Monarch because it was on sale 20% off, and a 6.5-20x UFCH Leupold was a whole lot more expensive than the Monarch, even if it had been full price.
 
I have a Conquest, but have spent some time looking through all three. I think the Conquest and VX-3 have the best optics. If I were buying another right now, I'd probably go with the Conquest again.
 
Razorback;

I've got all three. However, I have multiple Conquests and Nikons, only the one Leupold.
I'm happy with all of them & have no plans to replace any of them at this time. I will say this though, if the price is competitive, I'd buy another Zeiss in a heartbeat.

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I have all three of these scopes. Seriously, the competition is so fierce at this price range of the scope market, it's hard to go wrong.

To be honest, I can't tell the difference between the three. The Nikon is on my hunting rifle, but only because I bought it first, and I don't want to remount.

Just price shop, and buy which ever is cheapest. Leupold is an Oregon company and most of their scopes are USA made...not all. Nikon has been making glass for a long time and so have the Germans... you can't go wrong.

Flame away, but NOBODY can truly tell the difference!
 
I'd be looking at VX-2 or VX-3. The VX-3 is the better scope, but not by much. Not enough for me to pay the difference over the VX-2. In 2012 Leupold upgraded the VX lineup and current VX-2's are essentially pre 2012 VX-3's and are as much scope as I need. But I also have some VX-3's, Nikon Monarch's, and a Conquest as well as a Zeiss Diavari. For my money a current production $300-$350 VX-2 is what I'll buy.

The 3-9X40 Conquests were discontinued several years ago. At one time they were selling at $550, but Zeiss dropped the price to around $450 to compete with the VX-3. When they were closing them out they were $250-$299 and a bargain. The only thing still using the Conquest name is in the $800-$900 range.

The only way to get that scope now is used, the 3-9X42 Zeiss Terra replaced it. It is not quite as good as the old 3-9X40 Conquest, but at $399 is a good scope for the money.

I'd choose the VX-3 over the Terra. The original Conquest was probably slightly better than the pre-2012 VX-3, about the same as the current VX-3. Each had their strong and weak points.

The Nikon has great clear glass, and if that is your primary goal is probably the best choice. They are not in the running for me because of shortcomings with other features. Weight, eye relief, tunnel vision, and less useable reticles are some of their disadvatages. Good glass, just not good scopes. I'd buy their binoculars in a minute.
 
Eurooptic seems to have the Conquest 3-9x40 zplex on sale for $329... if you're on the fence, a deal like that might help. I got mine about a year ago for $379, and I have been very, very pleased with it.
 
I have several VX-3's and think they are incredible. Warranty and optical quality are both outstanding. But, at $350ish for the Zeiss I'd be probably leaning that way

I have a Nikon Monarch and can't wait to get rid of it. Gonna trade it away. Isn't even close
 
I've had about 2 dozen different scopes and about 6 different brands. My 2 best scopes are Leupold VX II 2.5-8X and Leupold VX 3 3.5-10X. The VX 3 is the absolute best. I have several other VX II and VX III scopes, all good, but the VX 3 is better. My brother has the Zeiss Conquest 3-9X and he likes my VX 3 better. I had one problem with a VX II some years ago and returned it to Leupold. They sent me a brand new scope, no questions asked. And they sent a nice gift to my gunsmith who identified the problem. How great is that?
 
I've got two VX-2s, a VX-3 and a Conquest. When I go to the range with my VX-3 rifle, I take one of the VX-2 ones to shoot while the other cools. There's no missing the difference between the two. The VX-3 is that good. The Conquest was Leupold's target when they updated the VX-3 a couple of years ago. I love the CDS turret option on the Leupolds.

That said, going forward, I will likely just get Zeiss going forward. I really prefer some things about the Conquest. My next rifle will come with a Conquest. I may swap it out, but if I buy any more scopes going forward, it'll be for the new Conquest HD5. Brightest, clearest scope I've seen. They are definitely worth the money.

The Nikon Monarch, at best, is comparable to a VX-2. On a good day.
 
Here is the difference you can see with your eye.

Leupold does wonderful things in the yellow part of the light spectrum. All of their coating technology for hunting passes this portion of the spectrum.

Nikon does too.

Zeiss and all German or Austrian glass I have ever looked thru do wonderful things in the blue portion of the spectrum.

So the Zeiss will seem brighter to your eye in daylight. But the difference comes when you are in a low light condition, ie dawn or dusk.

Most of that turns out to be a personal preference but if you have a chance to look thru each as sundown approaches you will be able to decide which works better for you.

If you can get to a Cabelas they may well allow you to look thru each out the back door as sundown comes. Compare that Conquest to a Zeiss Z6 and you will notice a major difference.

Just my personal preference but until you get into a high end Zeiss or a Schmidt and Bender the lower end blue spectrum glass is inferior to a VX 3.

The real high end German/Austrian glass is made so you can hunt at night. I have looked thru a Schmidt and Bender at 10 at night and the clarity of a distant object under moonlight is hard to believe until you actually see it. I could easily make out details on a porch at 600 yards with that scope.

That same glass is so bright in the middle of the day it actually hurts my eye. I have lived in Germany and my experience is that its nearly always overcast. Same thing in England. So that blue spectrum glass is excellent in those conditions.

Of course we don't hunt at night here in the USA. I hunt in Colorado so sunshine is the order of the day regardless of the season.

So for the glass you are looking at I would not think twice about a VX 3. Just my not so humble experience. The best thing to do is to take a look yourself since in the end its a subjective experience but the key test is the dawn/dusk view and how your eye handles it.
 
I bought some Leupold binos that had been returned to Cabelas and were in theBargain Cave. Threads for the eye piece was stripped. I bought them at a huge discount and sent them in for repair. I got a brand new pair of the upgraded model N/C

I agree 100% with the previous post about light gathering. Most guys go into the well lit store during the day and think cheap glass is equal to higher end stuff. Need to try it under poor light or stressful conditions to appreciate the difference
 
I agree 100% with the previous post about light gathering. Most guys go into the well lit store during the day and think cheap glass is equal to higher end stuff. Need to try it under poor light or stressful conditions to appreciate the difference
Yep. They all look good in daylight. In the store, look into a dark corner or under a display table.

Zeiss warranty is essentially the same transferable lifetime warranty Leupold has.
 
I've bought Leupolds for decades. Then a knowledgeable gun shop owner had me compare a Zeiss Conquest next to its Leupold competitor. The Zeiss was brighter and crisper, hands down. In that price range. Long story short, I bought the Zeiss and am very pleased every time I use it. In low light, I've never seen a brighter scope. The only negative I can come up with is, your eye relief is more critical - you have less room to move forward and back behind the scope, than with similar priced Leupolds. It's not a big problem though, if you're consistent in the way you hold the rifle.
 
Three good optics. In this case, I'd say the functional difference between the group would come down to a specific optic to optic variance. If the ones I've used, I thought the Nikon had the best glass, the Zeiss tint was different but equally clear, the Leupold was a close third in image quality. The build quality on them all was great. The Nikon turrets were in this case my favorite, though turret feel is individual and what I like May be too heavy or light for someone else. None of the turrets displayed much slack and I trust them all to function properly. The feel was simply a little better with the Nikon. When it comes to using the scope, I'd say I was more pleased with the Conquest and VX3 than the Monarch. The Monarch is a little picky on eye placement. Warranty clearly goes to Leupold and Zeiss.

For me, if they all were the same price, I'd grab a Zeiss or Leupold, depending which coatings I liked the look of better. All three are so functionally close to each other that I'd buy based on warranty. It really is the separating factor. If price was different, and the Nikon came in at 65-75% the cost of the other two, I'd buy it. I think long term, if say I needed three scopes, that buying three of the Monarchs and having enough left over to buy a 4th should something go wrong would be a better value than having three Zeiss or Leupold optics and spending an extra $300-$400. Nikon is ok with their warranty, they simply require you to keep the receipt, which I never am good at. Still, with the number of problems I've had with all three (zero, knock on wood) I think saving the cash on multiple optics may be a better value. If you plan on handing it down, I'd grab the Leupold simply because of the image, the American heritage, and the idea that should something go wrong 40 years down the road, I have faith that Leupold would make it right to the best of their abilities and that they will still be in the riflescope market.
 
Then a knowledgeable gun shop owner had me compare a Zeiss Conquest next to its Leupold competitor. The Zeiss was brighter and crisper, hands down.
again, which generation Leupold? I have two VX-III's and three VX-3's. World of difference
 
glad someone has had decent luck with nikons warrenty, mine was awful. as such i would just give a nikon away if i ended up with it in a deal. besides to me nikons glass isnt so hot. One thing that might be a concideration is that Leupold's scopes tend to be on the lighter end of the brands, all this talk has got me thinking on their VX3s now. best of luck with your choices
 
Yeah I did some looking and Euro Optic does have the Zeiss Conquest for 330 dollars. The Leupold VX 3 that is a 2.5 to 8 power is roughly 400 dollars and they are giving folks a Carhart Jacket if you buy the scope by October 15th.

After looking online, I think I'd rather have the Zeiss or Leupold when they are about the same price as the Nikon Monarch. I have a Nikon Monarch shotgun/muzzleloader 1-4 power on a lever action rifle and it seems to be a good scope for a woods rifle.

I'm going to try to make a run to Bass Pro and Gander Mountain to check out some scopes.
 
I have four Zeiss Conquest scopes with RZ reticles which are very good but recently bought a Vortex Viper 3-9x40mm with the Dead-Hold BDC reticle. With an MSRP of $399 it's a great scope for the money.
 
I looked at a Zeiss Terra, Conquest, and Leupold VX 3 today at Bass Pro. The Leupold VX 3 2.5-8 is somewhat lighter weight than the Zeiss Terra 3-9 power scope. I think the leupold also had better elevation and windage adjustment knobs than the two Zeiss scopes. I liked how the Leupold windage/elevation knobs are metal instead of plastic. The two Zeiss scopes were very slightly brighter than the Leupold. Tough decision when there are pros and cons with both. It is hard to tell the difference in the optical quality in a well lit store. All three of the scopes seemed to have great eye relief. I'd say the Leupold gave me the impression that build wise it might be more rugged than the Zeiss Conquest and Terra.
 
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