Pat Riot
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Is that the Burris Scout 2.75x28?
If so, how do you like it?
Also, is that an XS threaded ghost ring with a peep insert? I ask because I didn’t know they had a threaded option.
Scoping a lever rifle
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If so, how do you like it?
Also, is that an XS threaded ghost ring with a peep insert? I ask because I didn’t know they had a threaded option.
Pat Riot
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Okay, this is perfect.I too prefer the Lever Rail to the Ruger version. However, I have the same Burris 2.75X scope and it does fit on both the Ruger and the Lever products though it is tight on the flat top Ruger rail version. I use Warne QR rings in low, what rings are those?
I can swap the scopes back and forth if I wanted for some odd reason. The Ruger gets the Leopold 1.5-4 with medium rings to clear the peep and the Remington gets the Burris Scout 2.75X on low rings.
These are good scopes for the money:
Which scope do you prefer between the Leupold and the Burris? Both are on my short list.
I would also use Warne rings.
chicharrones
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Inexpensive quad lock "medium" Weavers. I first noticed them in use over at the Scout Rifle forum a few years ago. They were accepted by some scout rifle aficionados for being light and super low.
They don't have quick disconnect levers, but the nickel on my key chain fits perfectly into the nuts on the other side of the mounts for easy removal (if needed).
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chicharrones
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I've tried a cheap 2x pistol scope, a red dot, and came back to the 2.75x Burris Scout. I don't know what else to say other than I really like that Burris on that 1894 with the .357 magnum cartridge.
I did get a different rear sight from XS so that I can use Williams apertures. See the options in the link here. https://xssights.com/products/ghost-ring-apertures.html
For the life of me, I can't remember if I got the normal or long stem threaded aperture. Be sure to call XS to identify what you need.
Edit to add: You'll need "long shank" apertures to clear the XS rear sight base. You don't have to install the aperture backwards like I did, but it does allow the same sight picture without the aperture hanging over the rear of the receiver.
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Just a word of warning when swapping around sights on a lever gun. My cast loads are considerably slower than my jacketed loads, something like 1400 fps vs. 2200 fps. If I want to shoot both to 200 yards without a sight swap-out, I have to use a scope or a carefully sighted-in tang style Vernier sight, which I don't have. I have a Williams receiver sight but I'm not sure it would stretch far enough for both at that distance. This isn't likely to be a problem in the pistol caliber lever actions, as they often shoot cast just as fast as jacketed. For a 30-30 I have found it to be an issue. My next project for this gun is to see if the Williams will accommodate both load groups. If not, I'll be looking for a scope. The 1.5-5 Leupold above or the Vortex Diamondback 1.75-5 are the prime contenders should it come to that.
I also use those same Weaver Quad-lock rings. I really like them. I tried some Nikon vertically clamped rings and could never get them to hold the scope properly, though in hindsight, it could easily have been a problem with the nut behind the crosshairs.
I also use those same Weaver Quad-lock rings. I really like them. I tried some Nikon vertically clamped rings and could never get them to hold the scope properly, though in hindsight, it could easily have been a problem with the nut behind the crosshairs.
I’ve scoped a 94AE…I can’t shoot accurately enough with the buckhorn sights.
It makes the difference between being able to accurately hit at 100 yards instrad of 50.
I’m willing to sacrifice the classic look for that gain in yardage.
It makes the difference between being able to accurately hit at 100 yards instrad of 50.
I’m willing to sacrifice the classic look for that gain in yardage.
Pat Riot
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Thanks very much. I appreciate it.
When I bought my XS sights I found out very quickly that changing from the ghost to peep (or large aperture to small aperture) I had to resight the gun in.
Knowing about this Williams type rear sight will be a great help. Thank you.
I prefer the Burris 2.75X fixed power scope to the 1.5-4 Leopold. The Burris is a true scout scope so it will set forward on the rail.
I know Leopold makes a medium eye relief scope or did but the 1.5-4 is (only) about 4 inches of eye relief. It does clear the ghost ring on medium Warne rings. The Burris will set really low and tight on low rings and will be much further forward. I have had the Leopold try to scope me and the same with a Nikon African 1-4. Between them, yes, the Burris is the winner.
I might would give this one a look:
VX-Freedom 1.5-4x28 IER Scout Duplex
Jeff Cooper's vision was to create a rifle that was extremely versatile, compact, and capable of taking down most game animals–enter the scout rifle. Fast forward a few decades and you can now squeeze even more performance out of the platform with our VX®-Freedom® 1.5-4x28mm Scout scope.
www.leupold.com
I am not sure the above scope will nest down tight to the rail like the Burris 2.75X Scout does.
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Pat Riot
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I prefer the Burris 2.75X fixed power scope to the 1.5-4 Leopold. The Burris is a true scout scope so it will set forward on the rail.
I know Leopold makes a medium eye relief scope or did but the 1.5-4 is (only) about 4 inches of eye relief. It does clear the ghost ring on medium Warne rings. The Burris will set really low and tight on low rings and will be much further forward. I have had the Leopold try to scope me and the same with a Nikon African 1-4. Between them, yes, the Burris is the winner.
I might would give this one a look:
VX-Freedom 1.5-4x28 IER Scout Duplex
Jeff Cooper's vision was to create a rifle that was extremely versatile, compact, and capable of taking down most game animals–enter the scout rifle. Fast forward a few decades and you can now squeeze even more performance out of the platform with our VX®-Freedom® 1.5-4x28mm Scout scope.
I am not sure the above scope will nest down tight to the rail like the Burris 2.75X Scout does.
Thanks very much for your post. Your advice on the eye relief on the Leupold is what I was concerned about. After your advice and the advice of @chicharrones the Burris 2.75 scout has just moved to the top of my list.
Thank you.
Not exactly the same but on my Remington Marlin SBL I have the ghost ring sighted for near point black to about 50 yards zero with HMS Bear. I have the scope sighted for 100 yards with Hornady LR 325FTX (currently). And that being due to the dual purpose use of the rifle before I got a second SBL
. The dual purpose being a walkabout and protection rifle from toothy critters up close and the other purpose being deer and bowling pigs over at 100 yards or more.I have the Ruger SBL sighted for 100 yards with Federal Fusion on both the ghost ring and the Leopold scope. The Federal Fusion (Hammer Down) 300 grain does not try to snap back and smash my glasses like the bear loads and HLR ammo does.
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chicharrones
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Nest down tight is an apt description. There is about .040" of copy paper under the Burris 2.75x Scout Scope in the photos below with XS rail and Weaver quad lock medium rings.
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Riomouse911
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Two of my lever guns are scoped, a pre-safety Marlin 336 in .35 Remington and a BL-22 rimfire. My .45-70’s, .44 Mag and a couple of Henry .22’s wear peep sights. The others go as-is.
If putting a peep, scope or red dot sight on a lever gun works for you, that’s really the only thing that matters.
Stay safe.
If putting a peep, scope or red dot sight on a lever gun works for you, that’s really the only thing that matters.
Stay safe.
The Warne low rings are not quite as low your set up but still very close. I swapped the Burris over to the Ruger Marlin flat top rail just to show the Burris still fits with just enough clearance to the rail. Note the Burris sits below the sight line for the ghost ring:
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chicharrones
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The Warne low rings are not quite as low your set up but still very close. I swapped the Burris over to the Ruger Marlin flat top rail just to show the Burris still fits with just enough clearance to the rail. Note the Burris sits below the sight line for the ghost ring:
Good pics. This demonstrates that if @Pat Riot uses those Warne rings with a Burris 2.75x Scout on his XS lever rail, he would probably have clearance for a scope cover or scope caps.
Yes, I use that same bikini cover, it will slip on with some interference between the Burris ocular and the Lever Rail. The Ruger flat top rail it is just too tight.
Pat Riot
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This morning I was making coffee and thinking “I wonder if the Warne Low rings will allow for Butler Creek lens covers…
I guess I have my answer. Thank you both @chicharrones and @3Crows
Pat Riot
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Has anyone here tried the Vortex Crossfire II 2-7x32 Scout Scope.
From reviews I have read it would not be my preference but I have a suspicion that I might get one for Christmas. I apparently left it on an Amazon “want list” and it’s vanished from that list.
I guess I could return it if I wanted to.
From reviews I have read it would not be my preference but I have a suspicion that I might get one for Christmas. I apparently left it on an Amazon “want list” and it’s vanished from that list.
I guess I could return it if I wanted to.
I have that Vortex scope on my Savage .308. I will not try to overly prejudice you against it but I am not smitten of it. It is okay, especially at the lower end but at the upper end the periphery is distorted as if sighting through an old timey coke bottle. I have learned to live with it as otherwise it is an okay scope and does the job and has caused no problems and thus far has held zero despite getting bumped about.
CraigC
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I have the Leupold 1.5-4x Scout on my Ruger Ranch 6.5Grendel. It nestle right down in front of the peep sight on the Skinner scout rail in Warne low rings.
doubleh
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One person's opinion and you should know the old saying about opinions. If I wanted to scope a lever action rifle I would. It's my gun, my money, and no one else's concern. Wait a minute, I have already done that and I can shoot it more accurately than with the tang mounted peep sight that it previously had. Even way back in my high school years when I had excellent eyesight I found scopes to be the most accurate sighting devises for a rifle and that hasn't changed for me.
Pat Riot
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Thank you. The reviews I read were very much like what you wrote here.
The Happy Kaboomer
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ALL my hunting Lever guns are scoped. With Leupold/Meopta/Ziess . All 50mm with duplex recticles. Our deer shooting times are 1 hr before sunrise to 1 hr after sunset. Iron sights or those weinie scopes just done cut it during those times.........All my play gun levers are iron sighted cuz they only get shot in the daylight...........Say what you want about scoping a lever gun..........The only opinion that matters here is mine.
Weflyfast
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Marlins are unattractive leverguns anyway....so a scope doesn't hurt the looks all that much anyway.....
Ok ok ok....I am just poking fun and you Marlin guys -dont hate me- just because your W is upsidedown!
If it makes you hit what you are aiming at then put a scope on it!!!!! If you can't hit crap it's useless no matter what it is!!!!!!
Ok ok ok....I am just poking fun and you Marlin guys -dont hate me- just because your W is upsidedown!
If it makes you hit what you are aiming at then put a scope on it!!!!! If you can't hit crap it's useless no matter what it is!!!!!!
Savage30L
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I did this a couple of days ago.....
