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Scott Walker opposes Constitutional Carry

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  1. Wisco

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    Scott Walker: 'Appropriate' to have licenses to carry concealed weapons

    http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/lo...cle_55fd568b-1fae-5277-bf81-d5756ca3fb3f.html

    Scott Walker opposes the new proposed legislation to move to Constitutional Carry.

    I say he's no friend of the Constitution anyway, but please email or call his office and tell him to get behind the Second Amendment or get out in 2018.

    https://walker.wi.gov/contact-us

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    Email
    [email protected]

    Mail
    Office of Governor Scott Walker
    115 East Capitol
    Madison, WI 53702

    Phone
    (608) 266-1212


    Up for debate is also changing the law on firearms near schools for permit holders. It's still illegal in WI to have a gun in your car on school grounds even with a permit.

     
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    it is weird that our 2nd amendment supporters arent really complete supporters. all we got are halfwayers.
     
  3. Bad Ninja

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    Nope.
    They pretend to support 2a to get elected.
     
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    good point.
     
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    And you're surprised?
     
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    He is interested in governing the whole state not just the 1% that want so-called constitutional carry. I think it will eventually happen but probably not in the next few years. The way things work in politics is when an idea is put forth initially there's all kinds of people who think that there are good reasons not to do it. Over time they get used to the idea of maybe it happening and it becomes less of something they really care about all that much. As time goes on there's less opposition and you can eventually pass the law you want.
     
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  7. Wisco

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    Nothing about him surprises me.
     
  8. Wisco

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    Understood.

    This is the activism forum. I'm asking people to get involved and giving them the tools and information to very easily do so...even if it's only 1%. Less than 1% serve in the military these days and look at all the good stuff they give us...just have to get enough people to want it with or for you.
     
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    He's no Gov Abbott.
     
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    Actually, Scott Walker is EXACTLY like Gov. Greg Abbott.

    Both believe that their election gives them the right to rule as monarchs rather than lead as "first citizens".
     
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    Well, if it will eventually happen, then it must be supported by more than 1% of the electorate.
     
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    Requiring a license to carry a concealed firearm is also Constitutional carry, in no manner in violation of the Second Amendment.

    Yes, and among the more fundamental tenets of activism is to acknowledge and respect the law, whether one agrees with it or not, while at the same time seeking to change the law.

    Another fundamental tenet of activism is to not make baseless accusations against a politician, such as being an enemy of the Second Amendment because he supports a law that comports with current Second Amendment jurisprudence.

    Successful activism starts with opposing a law based on its merits – or the lack thereof, advocating to change the law through the political/democratic process, as a law is presumed to be Constitutional until the Supreme Court rules otherwise.
     
  13. VinnAY

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    an easy half the people on this forum would say "I support the Second Amendment, but..."
     
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    If it weren't for Scott Walker, you'd still be carrying only a folding knife under Doyle's regime, Wisco. I don't like a lot of things he's done, but Walker signed CCW in WI, I still stand by him.
     
  15. Wisco

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    Thank you for sharing, like, your opinion, man...

    Please do share where I can find the tenets of activism so I may read up.

    I think it's silly to accept something based on the fact it's permissible and not try for something better, which would also permissible under current jurisprudence.

    NY and CA have permissible laws, too. Do you accept them and suggest not advocating for better laws for gun owners?

    No baseless accusations were made. The governor doesn't support more freedom. He supports legal restrictions where he should be supporting more freedom from government interference.
     
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  16. Wisco

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    And for that, I'm thankful. All I'm saying is he needs to walk the walk if he's going to say he really supports the 2A. He has a chance to go further than permitted CCW.
     
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    Yes, it is a violation of the 2A. "Shall not be infringed" means exactly that. Permits encroach or infringe upon a fundamental right, making it more difficult to excercise.

    How is that a tenet of activism? That may be one of the rules for the discussion of activism on some online forums but it's not automatically a fundamental tenet of activism.
     
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    At least he's honest about it. When TN's Bill Hsslem was running for Governor, he unequivocally said if a Constitutional Carry bill came to his desk, he'd sign it.
    For the past 7 years now, he's made sure the bill never got out of committee, to even be voted on.
     
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    The Black Hole of Committee is one of the RINO's favorite tricks for Second Amendment lip service.
     
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    Here in The GunShine State formerly NRA 'A' rated GOP state assembly and senate members have killed legislation favored by gun rights activists. Even Marion Hammer has thrown gun owners under the bus.
    The entertainment and tourist industry are opposed to gun rights and have way too many Florida politicians in their money lined pockets.
     
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    "Yes, and among the more fundamental tenets of activism is to acknowledge and respect the law, whether one agrees with it or not, while at the same time seeking to change the law." copied from post #12

    The law says "...right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

    Too bad Congress/Legislatures dont abide by their Oath of Office
     
  22. red rick

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    After watching some people handle a firearm , I think you should have to pass a safety and marksman class to carry a firearm off your property . Most states require hunter safety classes , why should we have less for CC .
     
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    I'm for constitutional carry, but one reason a lot of politicians are against it is because of the revenue generated by permit fees.
     
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    I believe that anyone who carries a gun should have >1,000 hours of formal training, be able to draw and hit a target at 10' in <1 second and be able to consistently make head shots on an IDPA target at 25 yards. I can meet these requirements, so I therefore think they're completely reasonable.

    See how this works? Set a standard, and you're putting yourself in charge of someone's rights; and the folks who will be making the standards are NOT our friends.

    Larry
     
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    Yes, the Second Amendment does say that. But the Supreme Court - that is the people who get to say what the Constitution actually means - have repeatedly ruled that certain restraints (no machine guns, no shoulder stocks on pistols, etc.) are permitted by that very language.
     
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