Scratched a scope again

[Hookeye]

Even w dressed rings, the once minty gloss Leupold Varix ii c got light ring marks on the bottom where front ring was.

Have said it before, say it again, I absolutely detest Ruger rings.

Proly shoulda used tape in the bottoms, but the ring gap on the sides was pretty big anyway.

Too bad Burris no longer makes posiline rings for Ruger system.

Scope w light mark is still worth more than i paid LOL. But it was minty before my dang Ruger got ahold of it. Am not overly honked, as its a 3-9x and the rifle really needs a smaller scope in size and mag.

I need one rear offset ring or would try Warnes.

 

[Hookeye]

Suppose I could lap em. Will just avoid the issue by using other rings.

Just never been a fan of Rugers proprietary system.
Looks good, but thats about it IMHO.

 

[bearcreek]

Suppose I could lap em. Will just avoid the issue by using other rings.

I avoid the issue by spray painting my rifles and scopes with Krylon. If it gets scratched, more paint takes care of it, or more commonly, I ignore the scratch and carry on.

 

[LoonWulf]

I avoid the issue by spray painting my rifles and scopes with Krylon. If it gets scratched, more paint takes care of it, or more commonly, I ignore the scratch and carry on.

I don't generally paint Scopes, but that's the method I use for dealing with scratches in gun stocks........ Or ignoring them... Actually that's what I do for most scratches. I've got some pretty big dings on my scopes too...

You know....nearly all the Leupolds I've gotten at an acceptable price point were because they were coated in paint, sometimes so much that it was just the shape of the scope that told me I should buy it lol.

 

[LoonWulf]

I've never really had issues with Ruger rings. Scratching scopes, but the old weavers used to leave a ding in them every time I would try and use them.... I don't know if Leopold makes extension rings but I've had good luck with their Ruger versions.

 

[bearcreek]

I don't generally paint Scopes, but that's the method I use for dealing with scratches in gun stocks........ Or ignoring them... Actually that's what I do for most scratches. I've got some pretty big dings on my scopes too...

You know....nearly all the Leupolds I've gotten at unacceptable price point were because they were coated in paint, sometimes so much that it was just the shape of the scope that told me I should buy it lol.

I don't paint them right away. I give it some time to make sure it's a weapon I'm reasonably sure I'm going to want to keep.

 

[Hookeye]

Good idea, what camo pattern should I do on my 50th anniv Ruger #1 ?

LOL

 

[LoonWulf]

Good idea, what camo pattern should I do on my 50th anniv Ruger #1 ?

LOL

Gold on gold....

 

[rayatphonix]

I’ve never figured out how to keep my hunting scopes in pristine condition. Or my rifles either. I enjoy my time outdoors and don’t worry about the scrapes and scratches. My late father had a very expensive Browning shotgun that saw a lot of use over the years. The dings and scratches remind me of all the great times he had with that weapon. That’s worth more than the gun in pristine condition.

 

[JDeere]

I have used electrical tape for years to line my rings. Trim it to fit and never know it's there. I think the real key to no ring marks is having them properly aligned and the proper torque. I tried lapping a set but I don't know if that works or not as I have not taken that set apart. I used to use inexpensive rings and mounts. Several years ago I started using all Leupold rings and mounts with no issues...

 

[bearcreek]

Good idea, what camo pattern should I do on my 50th anniv Ruger #1 ?

LOL

Yeah, probably best to keep the spray paint away from that one. I'm not a gun collector, all of mine are tools. I've no objection to folks being collectors though, just doesn't work for my lifestyle and budget. Those Ruger #1's are nice looking rifles.

 

[rdnktrkr]

After reading from more knowledgeable people than I, I started seating my rings to the gun AND lapping the rings for the scope, I've lapped some rings for friends, and they couldn't believe how much theirs was off.

 

[Show Me]

THE rings did it. Life teaches us to dress up edges on rings. Ruger rings are like John Wayne toilet paper. Rough and tough and won't take poop off anyone. One time a long time ago my big mits crushed a nice old weaver with Ruger stainless rings with those torx screws. I did it. Once.

 

[Show Me]

After reading from more knowledgeable people than I, I started seating my rings to the gun AND lapping the rings for the scope, I've lapped some rings for friends, and they couldn't believe how much theirs was off.

Remember, those more knowledgeable people knew less than you at one time. You passed your knowledge to others . Awesome

 

[Hookeye]

I am familiar w Ruger rings LOL and the pair used were dressed to minimize scratching.
Were not lapped.
No pinch marks, and the marks from one ring, bottom only (light but uniform).

Eh, want a different scope on my #1A anyway, the 3-9X Vari Xiic looked a little big.

My #1B will be getting an EGW base and different rings. Have a known good gloss set of Burris.
My #1A proly go with Warne or if need be, go EGW as well.

The factory quarter rib does look good. About all I can say about it.
BTW Ive had half a dozen #1s.

Thought I had enough exp to avoid it, these rings actually used on a matte scope and left no marks.

The scope used after may have been contributory.

 

[Show Me]

I am familiar w Ruger rings LOL and the pair used were dressed to minimize scratching.
Were not lapped.
No pinch marks, and the marks from one ring, bottom only (light but uniform).

Eh, want a different scope on my #1A anyway, the 3-9X Vari Xiic looked a little big.

My #1B will be getting an EGW base and different rings. Have a known good gloss set of Burris.
My #1A proly go with Warne or if need be, go EGW as well.

The factory quarter rib does look good. About all I can say about it.
BTW Ive had half a dozen #1s.

Thought I had enough exp to avoid it, these rings actually used on a matte scope and left no marks.

The scope used after may have been contributory.

EGW is good stuff. They left out the screws I needed for Remington V3 and overnight shipped them. Made in USA

 

[redneck2]

I try to use Burris Signature rings with the floating inserts. I’ve only used them a few times but they never left any marks

 

[ColtPythonElite]

X2 on Burris Signature Zee rings. If they aren't available, I line the rings with electrical tape.

 

[Hookeye]

I try to use Burris Signature rings with the floating inserts. I’ve only used them a few times but they never left any marks

I have run Burris Signature rings for years.
Think they used to make some for Ruger system but haven't for a long while.

FWIW an EGW pic rail on a Ruger #1 is kinda tall, so for proper cheek (for me) a medium ring sits a little high.
And the lowest you can get w a Posi Line insert is medium.

Have already determined an EGW base on a Ruger #1, w gloss low Burris Zee rings (regular) is a good fit.
Unfortunately the EGW base need machining to work.

The radius at back for the overhang, contacts the receiver. The overhang itself is rather long.
And the front of the base can contact the objective, so needs some removed.
Guess its better to have "too much" metal than not enough (initially). LOL

 

[Hookeye]

Note: even with the plastic inserts and a properly set torque driver, the Posi Line inserts can change the luster of a matte scopes finish.
Not much, but noticeable.

 

[doubleh]

Three sets of Ruger rings have left no marks on scopes for me. I keep a line up bar and usually apply a little fine clove compound on each ring and rotate the bar to see how well the rings are aligned lapping them until no more bright metal appears. I did not do this with any of the Ruger rings though. I trusted them to be right and apparently all were.

 

[Hookeye]

Sounds like you need to purchase a lottery ticket

 

[Hookeye]

My dads B had the old reg rings and his Vari Xiii 3.5-10X AO got scratached.
Worse than my B did to my Vari Xii 3-9XAO.
My 4x on the RSI, was not marked by the new set ( reg front, offset rear). That wore an M8 4X.
The current rings, did not mark an FX2.5X, but did the recent 3-9X Vari X iic.
Even with the rings not dropping easily on the FX 2.5X, it left no mark. Maybe the newer finish is tougher.

Unfortunately, gloss scopes look best on #1s, and prices are getting silly, even for those with pronounced ring marks.
They aint worth it IMHO.

 

[Hookeye]

BTW, I have a 1" chunk of rod, and a Brownells alignment kit.
Have seen folks just drop stuff in rings and crank the screws.........expensive mistakes.
Some rifles not D&T in line, sometimes there are mis machined rings or bases.
Check before dropping that $$$ scope in em!

 

[I6turbo]

After reading from more knowledgeable people than I, I started seating my rings to the gun AND lapping the rings for the scope, I've lapped some rings for friends, and they couldn't believe how much theirs was off.

Yep, once I lapped a couple of sets and saw how much they needed it, I can’t bring myself to not lap them. Almost ALL rings are out of round from the factory, and a significant percentage of them are enough so to mark or even sent a scope tube.

Also, if you watch used scopes for sale like I used to enjoy doing (and picking up bargains in quality scopes), you’ll see what a high percentage of scopes have some ring damage, which won’t happen with properly lapped rings unless you are also a seriously ham-fisted installer.