Secret Service Officer Hurt in DC area Shootout

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Secret Service Officer Hurt in SE Shootout
Man Tried to Carjack Off-Duty Agent

By Allan Lengel and Martin Weil
Washington Post Staff Writers
Monday, March 6, 2006; Page B02

An off-duty police officer in the Secret Service's uniformed division was wounded last night in Southeast Washington in an exchange of gunfire during an attempt to steal his car.

It was the second time yesterday that shots were fired when gunmen tried to take a police officer's car in the District.

In last night's incident, The Secret Service officer was hit in the hand about 9:40 p.m. at a service station at Pennsylvania and Branch Avenues, according to Inspector Alton Bigelow of the 6th Police District.

The officer, who was not identified by name, was taken to a hospital for treatment.

The Secret Service officer, who was not in uniform, was filling the tank of his late-model Jeep when the would-be carjacker stepped out of an automobile, Bigelow said.

The assailant approached and demanded the officer's vehicle. The officer drew his gun, and the exchange of shots followed.

It was unclear last night how many shots were fired, but markers placed at the scene indicated the presence of about half a dozen spent cartridges.

After the shooting, the robber returned to his car and fled. At least one other person was inside, police said.

The Jeep remained at the scene last night. The window on its driver's side was shattered, apparently by gunfire.

The Secret Service's uniformed division patrols the White House and its grounds, as well embassies.

The earlier incident also occurred at a service station east of the Anacostia River. Robbers, at least one of them with a gun, seized a vehicle from an off-duty Prince George's County officer in the 3300 block of Benning Road NE, police said.

The officer fired at the robbers during the carjacking, police said.

Police who were searching for the officer's car found it about 10 minutes later, in another east-of-the-river neighborhood.

They said two suspects were taken into custody in the incident. One had a gunshot wound.
 
How dare that LEO shoot the poor innocent deprived of DC. They have an expectation that their victims will be disarmed, it's just not fair :evil: :evil: :evil:
 
interesting

The Uniformed Division is basically a uniformed security-guard type of organization. They are the guys you see around the White House and embassies that look like police officers, and drive marked police-type cars with the light bars.

Per "common knowledge" of DC-area firearms "enthusiasts" like myself, fed guards like the Uniformed Division and the Fed. Protective Service (a similar uniformed security guard-type of agency that protects various federal office buildings) are NOT considered "law enforcement" like FBA agents, DEA agents, etc., and have no carry authority other then while on the clock at their assigned post locations. MD won't issue its CCW permits to these types of security guards, even though MD has a "LEO free pass" that MD gives to police officers applying for MD CCW permits. MSP reasoned that these types of security guards are NOT considered police officers because they do not have general arrest authority, and therefore do not qualify for the free pass.

DC's handgun permit system is reportedly as tough, or tougher, than MD's: one of the plaintiffs in the current CATO institute lawsuit against the DC handgun ban is one of these fed. security guards who simply wants to keep a handgun in his own home.

Where I'm heading is this:
- we have a person with no authority to keep a loaded firearm handy in DC
- said person is otherwise "law abiding," seeing as how he passed the Top Secret-level background check to get hired by the SS Uniformed Division
- said person shoots an armed criminal attacking him

I wonder if the DC US Attorney is going to push for this guy's five year stay in DC jail for having an unregistered handgun in the District . . .
 
The Uniformed Division is basically a uniformed security-guard type of organization. They are the guys you see around the White House and embassies that look like police officers, and drive marked police-type cars with the light bars.

The Executive Protective Service was officially renamed the Secret Service Uniformed Division on November 15, 1977.

Treasury Police Force merged into the Secret Service Uniformed Division on October 5, 1986.

Your information is incorrect.
 
Why was another LEO trying to steal this guy's Jeep?

After all, we know that gun control works, and that ordinary citizens, much less the criminal ones, would not have firearms in DC. So it had to have been a law enforcement officer with the gun, right? :barf:
 
uh, what is incorrect?

The Executive Protective Service was officially renamed the Secret Service Uniformed Division on November 15, 1977.

Treasury Police Force merged into the Secret Service Uniformed Division on October 5, 1986.

Your information is incorrect.

The people standing around the White House in uniform are the SS Unif. Division, and the guys in the marked cars outside various embassies in DC are the SS Unif. Div.

As they themselves say:

Major Duties
The Uniformed Division officers provide protection for the United States President, Vice-President, President-elect, Vice-President-elect, their immediate families, former Presidents, their spouses and minor children until the age of 16, visiting foreign heads of states/governments, their accompanying spouses, major Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates, their spouses, and others designated by law. In addition, Uniformed Division officers provide protection for the White House Complex, the Vice-President's residence, the Main Treasury Building and Annex, and foreign diplomatic missions and embassies in the Washington, DC area. Uniformed Division officers also travel in support of the Presidential, Vice-Presidential, and foreign heads of state/government missions. Uniformed Division officers are also responsible for the enforcement of mandated protective responsibilities as described under Title 3, United States Code, Section 202.

Anyway, where they are posted isn't as germane to this thread as what will happen to this guy who was almost carjacked, and whether he was in the legal clear regarding having a loaded handgun in DC while not on duty.

(edited to add: loaded handgun in DC while off-duty, nationwide LEO off-duty carry law notwithstanding if he isn't a "LEO" within the law's definition)
 
The people standing around the White House in uniform are the SS Unif. Division, and the guys in the marked cars outside various embassies in DC are the SS Unif. Div.

Take it up with the Secret Service, their own website disagrees with you.

I'm sure you know much more about the Secret Service than they do.....

Uniformed Division officers also travel in support of the Presidential, Vice-Presidential, and foreign heads of state/government missions. Uniformed Division officers are also responsible for the enforcement of mandated protective responsibilities as described under Title 3, United States Code, Section 202.
 
I was under the impression that the SS Uniformed officers train at federal law enforcement facilities. Wouldn't that mean that they are likely to be sworn law enforcement officers?
 
Where are the one-stop shots? Both times it was a shoot out and the bad guys get away (at least from the immediate vicinity)!

Damn, I'm taking my 12 gauge to the gas station next time I fill up!

sarcasm, sarcasm and more sarcasm.

seriously tho, it makes you wonder.
 
What was that guy doing in SE after dark? I lived in NOVA and worked in DC for two years and I never actually made it to SE DC, for good reason.
 
There could not have been any shoot out. Guns are not allowed in D. C.
I know I used to live in NOVA.

For real, Seceret Service Uniform Division is armed. They have to take their weapons home with them. Maryland and Virginia do allow them to do so.
It has been done for decades. My dad was in LOE in D.C. For years you had to live in D.C. They finally allowed one to live so far out of D.C. We moved to Fairfax.

Too bad the Bad Guys didn't get tagged.

phonesysphonesys
Semper Fi
 
about half a dozen spent cartridges.

Holy crap! The Washington Pravda used correct terminology!:eek:

Mostly.

No "empty shell casings" "bullet casings" "fired slugs"?

Will wonders never cease?

and pity he didn't bag the bad guy. But I think there's a lesson there. We should use this to push more on DC.

But where did a criminal get a gun, when everyone knows they're illegal in DC? Doesn't he know he could go to jail for possessing that gun?
 
RealGun said:
Secret Service Officer Hurt in SE Shootout

What bothers me most here is the unbelieveable extent to which the District of Columbia has fallen in terms of crime despite the massive presence of law enforcement within it. Consider: In D.C., on any day, within its less that 10 square mile environs, there are District Police, Park Police, Metro Police, with added law enforcement from the federal presence; i.e., FBI, CIA, etc. On top of these is the Secret Serice contingent. Added to these police forces is the immense number of private security members. Almost every government building is guarded 24/7, both inside and out, by a legion of security guards. In upper NE there is a U.S. Army Guard facility keeping watch daily and along the Potomac there is an Air Force Helipcopter base: Fort Bolling, with a host of law enforcement and MPs. Added to this mix is a heavy presence of bordering law enforcement, Maryland to the north and east and Virginia to the south. In short, the small confines of the District of Columbia boasts the highest concentration of law enforcement in the nation, possibly in the entire world! Despite this, it also has the highest crime rate, per person, for its size, in the nation! What's going on???????
 
In short, the small confines of the District of Columbia boasts the highest concentration of law enforcement in the nation, possibly in the entire world! Despite this, it also has the highest crime rate, per person, for its size, in the nation! What's going on???????

Well, yeah, but no one IMPORTANT gets hurt. Just common people.:fire: :banghead:
 
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