Sell an "adult" video game to a minor - Become a felon

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We've become acutely aware that more and more "crimes" have been made a basis for losing one's RKBA. I've also contended that "lawmakers" are in a headlong dash to make anything and everything they can possibly get away with, a felony. :cuss:

More evidence for your perusal. :scrutiny:

Oh, and for the record I believe it’s a PARENTS job to police their child’s gaming habits, not the state. :banghead:

http://money.cnn.com/2003/01/15/commentary/game_over/column_gaming/index.htm

Mr. Nukem goes to Washington

Gaming as a felony: Part II? Congress prepares to resume the debate.

January 15, 2003: 3:06 PM EST

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Politically, 2003 isn't getting off to a great start for gaming companies. Rested from its winter vacations, the government seems more eager than ever to hold the industry's feet to the fire.

In February, Rep. Joe Baca (D. Calif.) is expected to resurrect "The Protect Children from Video Game Sex and Violence Act". (The original version died last year in the subcommittee on crime, terrorism and homeland security.) When it's reintroduced, the bill will have the same goal: making it a federal crime to sell or rent violent video games to anyone under 18. The language, though, is being reworked. Last year's proposal failed to get traction because of concerns about the scope of the bill and potential first amendment issues. Aggressive lobbying efforts by retailers and the gaming industry – certain to be repeated this year – also played a role in the defeat.

Baca's office told me the new bill is being modeled on a St. Louis ordinance that makes it illegal to sell or rent a violent video game to a minor without a parent/guardian's consent. Passed in 2000, that ordinance withstood a legal challenge by the gaming industry in 2002, which claimed the law was a violation of First Amendment rights. (That U.S. District Court ruling currently stands as the gaming industry's most significant legal defeat, though another appeal is underway.)

Baca's original bill solely targeted retailers. This year's version, though, might widen its net and include Cyber Cafes, though no final decision has been made on that. (Over the past year, there have been occasional acts of violence at these cafes in California, including one incident where two teens suffered gunshot wounds.)

Cyber Cafes are a fairly limited market, though. The real impact of this proposed law, if passed, would be on retailers, who would be the ones penalized for infractions. The gaming industry would see a trickle down effect if sales suffered.

"Postal 2," which is bound to earn an "M" rating upon release, would be affected by the bill.
Directly targeting gaming companies, you see, would be a fool's mission for politicians. The St. Louis ruling notwithstanding, any government effort to dictate what developers put into a game would be a blatant violation of the First Amendment. Putting the onus on retailers is safer legally, but raises some issues of its own.

There's no question that stores need to do a better job policing themselves when it comes to the sale and rental of "M"- rated games. Children are getting their hands on mature titles too easily, thanks in part to the teens that typically work the registers. (There's no quicker road to popularity than giving your peers access to something verboten.)

The obvious solution is to hire adults to work those registers. The pay scale for such a job is a lot less than many adults are willing to work for, though. This leaves retailers facing two less than appealing choices: Substantially raise salaries while sales remain flat or take the risk of violating the law.

Some stores tried an unusual approach when the controversial dud "BMX XXX" went on sale, putting the game behind the counter, with everything except the title covered by a thick piece of black plastic (picture Playboy magazine behind a convenience store counter). The game flopped, but it wasn't because of that plastic. Aside from a few curiosity seekers, gamers scoffed at this title.

Better parental supervision is unquestionably required, but we're not seeing a lot of progress on that front. Too many guardians cling to the belief that games haven't progressed beyond Pac Man and Mario, and thus take little to no interest in what their children are playing. Others vilify all M-rated games, not realizing there's a world of difference between titles like "Postal" (where you kill indiscriminately) and the "Thief" games (where stealth is encouraged and you face repercussions for killing).

Federal laws regulating sales of these games is a knee-jerk reaction. (Note that you don't see any such laws regulating the film or television industries, which depict more brutal acts of violence all the time.) Retailer efforts to do something about the situation have obviously floundered. I'll admit I'm a little stumped here, too. What do you think? Send me your proposed solutions and we'll compare notes in a future column.
 
What if I buy a copy of Rainbow Six 7: Operation Arctic Skunk for my future offspring as a straw purchase? I need to turn my boy on to Tracy Woo (the Chinese SWAT girl from LA in Rainbow Six and Rogue Spear) while he's still young.
 
The man is delusional! We can't even keep child molesters like Kenneth Parnell behind bars for more than 5 years and we are supposed to lock up video store clerks? Who is he letting out to make room in prison? But then again this is all about getting re-elected not really solving problems.
How about licensing the sale of adult video games? Get caught too many times you lose your license.
 
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I think it is vitally important we protect our youth, so important the bill should call for all BATF agents to be placed on "bust the guys selling mature video games to underage kids" detail on a permanent basis and ignore all gun related things from now on.

:D :neener: :D
 
We've become acutely aware that more and more "crimes" have been made a basis for losing one's RKBA.

The video game industry's rating system is voluntary. There aren't any federal laws restricting the sale of 'M' rated games to minors (yet). I am not sure about the 'AO' Adults only rating.

Unless your particular locality is regulating sales, I don't see a problem (yet).
 
Most kids know the difference between a game and reality or TV is not real it's "acting". My nephew is 5 yrs and loves to play action / adventure and first person games. He can also tell you
"Oh, its just a game you're not supposed to hurt people for real..........Its the childs parents that are "supposed" to provide the knowledge and understanding that differentiates between the two. And to take interest in their childrens interests.
 
Why not apply this to movie theaters that let kids under 17 into R-rated films? :rolleyes:
 
Wow, I've been playing violent video games for about 10 years now, and I haven't killed anyone yet, or gone on a shooting rampage. I guess I'm just a 1 percent case or something :rolleyes: . Seriously though, I think that it is a parent's responsibility to decide if their children should be able to play video games like this, not some crazy liberal screaming "Think about the children". One one last note, I have NEVER met anyone that could not tell the difference between a television screen & a person standing in front of them.
 
making it a federal crime to sell or rent violent video games to anyone under 18


Sell the video game, become a felon. Oh, you own guns- an additional 5 years in federal pen for "Project Exile" (or whatever your state calls it*).

Hey, no problem- just don't break any laws, you'll be alright. But we don't want those nasty felons to have guns.


*Yeah, it's not a violent crime- yet. How long before violent videos are violent crimes?


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wow. all this talk has me itching to play a few rounds of Omaha Beach on MOHAA at lunch today. wonder how many krauts i can annihalate today? or should i join the axis team and fight the allies?

then later, since i'm such an impressionable fool, i think i'll reenact some of the better frags i get with my Mauser M98. :banghead:
 
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