selling/buying on the net
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JollyWhiteGiant
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find a price you like, email them. agree on price and shipping. find a FFL dealer in your area that will accept the firearm and process the paperwork and background checks. Send payment and ffl number to seller. seller ships to your ffl dealer who completes the transfer, paperwork, and federal background check.
that is of course assuming what you want to buy is leagal in your area and you are able to own firearms.
that is of course assuming what you want to buy is leagal in your area and you are able to own firearms.
nalioth
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The GunBroker buyers tutorial gives a basic understanding.
http://www.gunbroker.com/User/BuyerTutorial.asp
http://www.gunbroker.com/User/BuyerTutorial.asp
An FFL is a Federal Firearms License. Essentially, a gun dealer or a gunshop.
As was said, you should do this:
1. Go to your local gunshops and ask them how much they charge for a transfer. The usual rate around here is $20. If it is a lot more than that, shop around until you find someone reasonable. Once you find one...
2. Obtain a copy of his FFL. Basically, they'll give you a photocopy with their signature signed in ink. They should know the drill.
3. Send this copy to the guy who is selling the gun.
4. The gun will be sent to the gunshop.
5. You will go into the gunshop, pay your transfer fee, fill out some Federal paperwork (the Brady Bill stuff), and go home with your gun.
Mike
As was said, you should do this:
1. Go to your local gunshops and ask them how much they charge for a transfer. The usual rate around here is $20. If it is a lot more than that, shop around until you find someone reasonable. Once you find one...
2. Obtain a copy of his FFL. Basically, they'll give you a photocopy with their signature signed in ink. They should know the drill.
3. Send this copy to the guy who is selling the gun.
4. The gun will be sent to the gunshop.
5. You will go into the gunshop, pay your transfer fee, fill out some Federal paperwork (the Brady Bill stuff), and go home with your gun.
Mike
JollyWhiteGiant
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you don't need to send a copy of the ffl to a non-licencee, you just need the number. verify the number and shipping address on gunbroker or the atf website.
"you don't need to send a copy of the ffl to a non-licencee, you just need the number. verify the number and shipping address on gunbroker or the atf website."
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Check FFL #'s here:
https://www.atfonline.gov/fflezcheck/
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I'm not so sure you'd get a better deal on a new gun via a net purchase in lieu of buying local. Case point: I am going to buy a Benelli 20ga, I've wanted one for years. On the net this same Benelli 20ga is *over* $850 plus shipping and a Transfer fee. The local shp here has this 'shotgun' on sale for $799 plus tax. My total cost will be less than $850!
Another example I bought two New, Ruger Super Redhawk, 7.5", consec serial #'d 44mag's for less than $600ea.[enuff to buy a box of ammo/50-rounds] including tax at my local g-shop. Try finding this revolver *same, and it must be NIB*for an amount equaling or less than 'that' on the net!
Gooood lucccck...
On the other hand....the net is invaluable when looking for hard to find guns or guns your local g-shop does not or will not carry. For example: Winchester bolt guns and levers their production is done! Your local shop will not be able to acquire a bolt or lever action Win from Win or a wholesaler. BUT you might be able and should be able to find your winchester on the net.
You really need to get informed and talk with an amiable sales person or ask for the owner or manager: nothing ventured, nothing gained...as for Scheels, Cabela's, Dicks, BassPro...you're just another walk-in and if you don't buy, another will!
There are advantages to both options when buying a firearm and the more you know the better off you'll be!
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Check FFL #'s here:
https://www.atfonline.gov/fflezcheck/
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I'm not so sure you'd get a better deal on a new gun via a net purchase in lieu of buying local. Case point: I am going to buy a Benelli 20ga, I've wanted one for years. On the net this same Benelli 20ga is *over* $850 plus shipping and a Transfer fee. The local shp here has this 'shotgun' on sale for $799 plus tax. My total cost will be less than $850!
Another example I bought two New, Ruger Super Redhawk, 7.5", consec serial #'d 44mag's for less than $600ea.[enuff to buy a box of ammo/50-rounds] including tax at my local g-shop. Try finding this revolver *same, and it must be NIB*for an amount equaling or less than 'that' on the net!
Gooood lucccck...
On the other hand....the net is invaluable when looking for hard to find guns or guns your local g-shop does not or will not carry. For example: Winchester bolt guns and levers their production is done! Your local shop will not be able to acquire a bolt or lever action Win from Win or a wholesaler. BUT you might be able and should be able to find your winchester on the net.
You really need to get informed and talk with an amiable sales person or ask for the owner or manager: nothing ventured, nothing gained...as for Scheels, Cabela's, Dicks, BassPro...you're just another walk-in and if you don't buy, another will!
There are advantages to both options when buying a firearm and the more you know the better off you'll be!
"sounds painful and long. i'll see if the local gun shop can do it for me. thanks."
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It's not about being PAINFUL & LONG...it's about being informed and having options.
A learning process is always 'painfull' especially if money is no object!!!
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It's not about being PAINFUL & LONG...it's about being informed and having options.
A learning process is always 'painfull' especially if money is no object!!!
Bazooka Joe71
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If the guy you are buying from has a fax # and paypal account, you can have the handgun you are looking for in 1-2days, or the rifle you are looking for in 3-4 days.
If they don't have paypal and fax #, then just add the normal amount of time it takes to mail a letter.
There is nothing difficult about it...The hardest part might be finding an FFL with cheap transfer fees...Not a big deal at all.
AF FAL
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I'd be careful about using Paypal to pay for a firearm. They have explicit rules against it, they are extremely anti second ammendment. I know of people getting their accounts and money frozen simply for owning a gunshop, even though they were not accepting Paypal ofr payment of firearms.
Play it safe call them with a credit card via phone, or send it via snail mail.
Play it safe call them with a credit card via phone, or send it via snail mail.
MinnMooney
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Coronoch is correct and brief so I won't elaborate further on the process. What I would like to say is that if my local gun shop is within 5-6% of the best website price then I'll buy from the local to help keep him in business.
Remember, he has to deal with the state's sales tax which usually doesn't come into play with a web-based e-tailer (unless he has a store in your state or he's based in your state).
Remember, he has to deal with the state's sales tax which usually doesn't come into play with a web-based e-tailer (unless he has a store in your state or he's based in your state).
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woad_yurt
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You should check out getting a C&R licence (Google it.) The best $30.00 I've spent so far. You can get a lot of stuff shipped directly to you w/o transfer fees.
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