Sistema1927
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They know what they are doing. Their end game is total civilian disarmament.
Semi Automatics which do not have the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds?
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I'd say the odds are that they KNOW what they are doing. The author probably wasn't actually stupid enough not to know that he/she is covering essentially every gun, but they want to get the noose around the neck of gun owners, then they can tighten it. The lame brains who are out trying to drum up support from fellow dupes may not know, but the writers know, I'll bet. I'd like to be wrong, and would like the facts to be that they are actually that stupid, but I doubt it. Again, their worker bee dupes are that stupid, but the people with the money and the schemes, they probably aren't that stupid.
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The '94 ban had plenty of what the libs call "loopholes". For example: Magazines that held over 10 rds were banned. But any magazine produced before the ban was enacted could still be sold or exchanged. Prices on 10+ magazines doubled or tripled after the ban was in place. Since aftermarket mags were not date marked they were still manufactured all the way until the ban was repealed in '04. I remember paying $90 for a single G21 13 rd mag around '98. The gun grabbers have learned from their mistakes and omissions from the '94 ban list. Anything they write up in the way will include stifling regulations. But can they realistically be inforced.
Illinois is 3 miles from me and I'm 30 miles from Chicago. What they deal with over there is mind numbing. Like most states with large cities, the cities rule the roost. Chicago is a giant out of control crap hole, that sucks the funds and life out of the rest of Illinois. Illinois is not the only state with problems that the ignorant think they can anti gun their way out of.
Chicago's stats 2 mos into 2019
https://heyjackass.com/
Illinois is 3 miles from me and I'm 30 miles from Chicago. What they deal with over there is mind numbing. Like most states with large cities, the cities rule the roost. Chicago is a giant out of control crap hole, that sucks the funds and life out of the rest of Illinois. Illinois is not the only state with problems that the ignorant think they can anti gun their way out of.
Chicago's stats 2 mos into 2019
https://heyjackass.com/
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rpenmanparker
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I don't think so. They would have to be much smarter than I think they are to be able to keep that quiet. I have never heard that said or seen it in print. I wouldn't believe it is true just because that is what scares you most.
Sistema1927
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Keep telling yourself that an one day you will wake up in England.
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Actually one day I won’t wake up at all. And then it won’t matter very much, will it?
And BTW, I like England.
So many of you think we are so superior because we have guns. Meh! They are fun, but aren’t much good for anything else. We could play tennis instead.
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I'm not trying to argue. BUT: Great Britain has an age old history of gun/sword/stick/stone ownership being restricted to the landed gentry and rich. The resentment towards these types by the left/labor party includes the average law abiding citizen opposing gun/sword/stick/stone ownership by ANYONE. They are apparently happy being helpless. The UK, South Ireland, Canada and Australia combined have less than half the population of the U.S.. It will take a long time as in, many, many years to disarm us. By then the liberal agenda will have bled this country dry as in any country that has tried a utopian society. Hysterical rumors spread by gun owners in the pre '94 years led to bleeding the NRA almost dry.
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I see by your photo that you just may possibly qualify for Social Security and Medicare. If so, I guess you have disclaimed your share of those liberal abominations.
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What is your point? Yeah,, I qualify for both those liberal abominations. I paid into both those for the 50 yrs I WORKED. I currently pay $402 a month to maintain Medicare benifits. I also paid for health insurance for myself and my family for 50 yrs. and used the "benefits" maybe 7 times for minor stuff. My son who is now 42 and my only child, has worked continuously since age 18 at the same job. This without benefit of any college, that everyone thinks will secure them a 6 figure job. I think myself and my son have at least supported ourselves rather live off welfare entitlements. Since I'm one of the boomers I think we paid our way toward retirement. I take my SS in cash and hand it out to the people that prefer not to work (which there's many around here) so they can drink some free beer and hopefully they or their offspring will not break into my house or truck.
I APPOLOGIZE TO THE OP AND FOLLOWERS OF THIS TOPIC. I WON'T RESPOND TO ANYTHING MORE THAT TAKES THIS THREAD OFF TOPIC.
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danez71
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You may be part ostrich then because there are vids of Feinstein and others saying they would ban all guns.
In regards to the other posts, I'm sure there are some cooking forums to join to fulfill the constant urge to stir the pot for no good reason other than to see it swirl.
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So in other words your opinions are reasonable and mine are not. That is what you are saying. Only one side of the argument is allowed here, is that it? That may make you all comfy, but it doesn’t accomplish anything. I can’t help it if you don’t like dispute, but that is where opinions like yours...and Popeye’s...and mine... just naturally lead us. We all need to hear the whole argument. That is why I appreciate reading what you wrote about Feinstein...and why you should feel the same about knowing not everyone is tuned into that.
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We have potentially/hopefully good news in regards to this legislation. I spoke to our state senator's office regarding another issue impacting my business and the staff member I was speaking to mentioned a similar issue he had after being discharged from the service. Thinking that as a veteran, even though he worked for a democratic senator he may not be an anti I took that opportunity to ask about this legislation, and his take on it was that since it hasn't made progress since being introduced he thought it wouldn't pass in it's current form.
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Not at all.
You brought up social security and medicare in effort to derail the topic of the thread to a subject that you want to talk about on a forum thats about guns in a thread that's about guns.
You're just trying to stir the pot like you do in a lot of other threads.
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No, Popeye was bad mouthing liberal governments in areas that have nothing to do with guns. Economic policies and such. I quote him: "By then the liberal agenda will have bled this country dry as in any country that has tried a utopian society." I was following his thread by pointing out that Popeye wouldn't likely vote against liberal programs that were benefitting himself. You completely misunderstood my post.
So here we are again. I'll ask you since he wouldn't respond. Weren't his comments about liberal governments and their agendas stirring the pot like you accuse me of doing. Why is it okay here to stir the pot with your right hand but not with your left. And it is okay to start the trouble from the right side, but it is never acceptable to respond against it from the left. What kind of conversation is that?
You seem to follow what I write and still don't get that I don't start this stuff. I just counterpoint what others have said. But yeah, I get it, you don't expect anyone to provide a different viewpoint.
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danez71
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I understood your point.
Oh.... but you do start it. Maybe not everytime but you do. And you'll take one part of something someone said and really put in the effort to derail the threads.
Sistema1927
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Life is so much easier if you just ignore certain posters.
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Ain’t it the truth!
Don’t be silly. Everyone knows ankle holsters are too slow.
Better off to go with the dual Desert Eagles in the Thunderwear holster.
stonebuster
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I've lived in Connecticut (the "constitution state"
)for 60 yrs and your right about the left. Don't forget about our congressman who openly admitted that if he had his way only LE and the military would be allowed to own guns and supports a bill to tax firearms and ammo at a 50% rate. And Chris Murphy who was speaking to a group about banning automatic weapons and displayed a semi auto handgun as an example of an automatic weapon and argued with someone trying to correct him. At least Ct hasn't tried to ban guns capable of accepting mags w/capacity to hold >10 rounds and banned the mags instead of guns. Probably because they didn't think of it.
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TomJ
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For those who don't believe the anti's want to repeal the 2A.
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2...he-second-amendment-introduces-red-flag-bill/
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2019/bills/SCR42_.HTM
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2...he-second-amendment-introduces-red-flag-bill/
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2019/bills/SCR42_.HTM
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