Semi S.G. how to keep it loaded for HD *Safely* input wanted

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Hi friends, I'm a reader, not much of a poster. I have a Mossberg 930 and I'm not sure of how to keep it loaded safely.

The owners manual says lock receiver back, load 1st shell, release the receiver, load the magazine tube. That only leaves the plastic safety between me and a live trigger.

Since I'm inexperienced, I don't want leave my shot gun in that state. There's no kids in my house, but, I'm just not that comfortable with shotguns yet.

I know this is a really dumb question. I'll try to make it easier with this.

Will this work?

Load tube with shells, pull action back until it locks, release the button, now shell is live and ready to fire? Yes/No (Mossberg 930 field/security combo).



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I know it's a dumb question, but, I don't really understand the elevator system yet. Thanks for any help guys or advice.

-Marble :D
 
I don't want to leave it in a ready to fire condition.

I was hoping that I could load the magazine tube and then if I absolutely had to in a SHTF situation, if pulling locking the receiver back and then releasing it would fire a shell.

Or would I have to lock the action back, load a shell and then release it (even with a full magazine tube)......

Essentially I'm asking if I could keep it like most of ya'll keep your pump. (Full tube, empty chamber).. . . If it were a handgun I would want clip in, only a slide rack away from a live round.

I know I'm probably making this more confusing than it has to be. It's the "elevator" that's confusing me.

Thanks for help. :D
 
if you can load the mad and then lock the bolt back and leave one in the chamber area with the bolt back - all you'll need to do is press the button to release the bolt and be ready to go.
 
welll i dont run the same semi as you on mine i keep bolt locked back full magazine inserted so ready to fire is short tug on the handle and release
 
If I understand you correctly, Yes. You can do what you are asking. Close the bolt on an empty chamber and take the safety off. The gun is empty. Load the magazine full and put the gun away.

When you need it, just work the action once and it is ready to fire.

This is commonly called "cruiser ready".

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-194395.html

Depending on your shotgun, you may not be able to load the magazine with the bolt open.
 
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Thank you all. :D HuntandFish special thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for. ;)

Thanks for your time guys. I appreciate the help.
 
This is meant with kindness:

Practice with it a lot - shoot clays or go hunting. Practice loading and unloading it. Get comfortable with the gun until you feel comfortable enough with it being loaded.

There's not much point in having a go-to gun unloaded for HD.
 
Yes. You can do what you are asking. Close the bolt on an empty chamber and take the safety off. The gun is empty. Load the magazine full and put the gun away.
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This is how I have my Moss 500 set up. One rack and you are good to go. Grab the gun, rack it once, fire.
 
Alex23, I agree with you 100%. I do need practice, I hope to get some this weekend after next. I wouldn't mistake and suggestion for being mean. :D It's only logical to be familiar with your firearms. I have 4 boxes of 8 shot just dying to ruin some skeet's day. :D

I'm glad to hear the options. I had not thought of leaving it open. You guys that leave yours "chambered" and locked back, do you have any problems with dust or anything? Or is it not really an issue?

Thanks for all the advice guys.
 
I suggest getting 4 snap caps and use them to both practice reloading as well as working them through the gun until it all makes sense. I know it helps my understanding greatly to be able to see what happens and what parts move when.
 
Do not leave the bolt locked open.
Do not leave the safety off.

Load the mag tube, and leave the bolt shut on an empty chamber.
Safety on.

All it takes is, yank the bolt handle one time, and you are Cocked & Locked and ready for action.

The rest of the time, the gun is as safe as it can be made with shells in the same room.

That's the way the military does it.
That's the way the cops do it.
And that's the way you should do it too!

rc
 
We're not the police, we're not the military. We have different needs.


Run the gun until you're used to it. It's perfectly safe with a full tube and empty chamber with the safety off, it's perfectly safe with a full tube and chamber with the safety on. Run it until you can trust your tools.
 
We're not the police, we're not the military.
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No, but you are no more immune then they are to having an off-safe, locked-open & loaded shotgun getting in the hands of someone who doesn't know better.

Like having the bolt catch jar off when your wife sets it on the floor too hard when she dusts behind it.
Which leaves her holding the barrel of a loaded & ready to fire shotgun pointed at her head!

rc
 
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Once you are familiar with the weapon load the mag leave the bolt closed, safety on or off is up to you so leave it where you'll remember it. Grab drag and release. I use a pump but it's the same basic drill lets not argue semantics.
We can debate it till the cows come home but this works for me and you have to decide what works for you in your home. In my case if I do not have enough time to complete these actions then the dogs have not done their job and I'm stuck with a pistol until I can get the 3 steps to the 870.

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Wow.

The correct answer is:

Load a snap-cap in the chamber and "fire." Load the mag tube. Safety off. Hide the arm. When u want to go "bang" retrieve the gun, cock it (thereby ejecting the snap-cap and loading a live round) and pull trigger.

Only drawback is noise, if you didn't want any, as well as loosing a round of capacity. I would not keep a gun laying around at home cocked and locked. Advantages are: safety, un-tensioned firing pin and/or hammer springs; no safety to play with; no action unlocking switch to worry about; no open action to get dirty, under tension, to jam, to worry if it is really loaded as the cartridge may reposition itself or even fall out; no round in the chamber in a cocked gun...

Al
 
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I keep mine with one in the chamber, cocked, safety on. It's a semi-auto. No racking anything if I need it, just flick the safety off and pull the trigger; only adults in the house and it's locked up when I'm gone.

I don't trust the safety but it gives me enough margin to do this comfortably. Unless I drop my shoutgun down the stairs or throw it off a balcony, I'm guessing it'll be all right.
 
Though YMMV, unless you're mixing too many drinks first, I personally don't see much of a problem there. Relying on nothing but the intended flick of a mechanical safety to prevent the indoors accidental discharge of a squirreled-away semi-auto 12 ga. someone is retrieving!? Not so much.
Al
 
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People do it with pistols on their hips every day, even with Glocks without safeties.
 
Thank for the additional responses. I've heard of snap caps, but, I didn't actually know they made 12 ga size. I'm going to order some tonight, thanks very much for that recommendation.


Al LaVodka, special thanks to you. I think your answer is perfect. I can load it exactly like the owners manual says, manually clear the "snap cap" and be ready to fire. That does sound like the best answer for me.

Thanks friends. :D
 
If your response to your wife rough housing your shotgun while it's pointing at her head is a different method of loading, you're doing it wrong. If you aren't comfortable handling a live weapon, I can gar-an-damn-tee you it will not be of use to you in a defense situation. Yeesh...
 
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