Sen Chuck Schumer on "Meet The Press"

[ClarkKentAKASuperman]

I just saw Sen. Chuck Schumer on "Meet The Press" a few minutes ago and he actually said (in response to a new gun control poll which showed that only 44% of the american public in 2010 wanted more gun control laws vs 87% back in the 1990's) that the reason people want less gun control now is because so many gun control laws created in recent years (and he specifically used the Brady law as an example) have been so successful, the american public doesn't feel the need for more.

On an up note, he did admit that new gun control legislation has been receiving less support in congress as of late and less likely to be brought to the table.

 

[PATH]

As of right now I don't see any new stuff getting through but remember to keep the mail and the phone lines busy. The more we contact them the less they care to put anti-gun legislation up!

 

[ClarkKentAKASuperman]

As of right now I don't see any new stuff getting through but remember to keep the mail and the phone lines busy. The more we contact them the less they care to put anti-gun legislation up!

+1, and let's not forget that it costs $$ to put up these fights against new anti gun legislation, so let's all try and give a few more dead presidents to our favorite "charities" if at all possible. Every dollar counts, so don't be embarrassed if it's a minimal donation during these tough economic times.

 

[Grunt Medic TXARNG]

Well, since Chucky will never buy the 'More Guns, Less Crime' argument, I'll have to accept the fadct that he acknowledges that his pet issue lacks support and is unlikely to be successful is as much a victory as I can hope for.

At least this last year I was able to both become an NRA life and then Endowment life member...

 

[22-rimfire]

Shumer is a very well spoken politician and has to my knowledge always been in favor of restricting access to guns through the enactment of more laws. He doesn't care if the laws make it more difficult for honest people to purchase or own guns. He has said that gun ownership in the USA is not an absolute right but he says that Americans have the right for self defense... meaning, add more red tape until it difficult for average Americans to purchase or own guns such as are presently enacted in NYC.

 

[rajb123]

ALL POLS from NY are in favor of more gun controls.

I beleive the proposed big magizine ban from Caorlyn McCarthy (D-NY) is a done deal. Perhaps more including banning so-called assault weapons will become law. The Supremes now have two new members who are both judicial activist (e.g., those who ignor the Constitution) and who knows what will come from this.

When criminals target POLS, the chance of more gun controls increases dramatically.

 

[NCsmitty]

Chucky's political affiliation has had an anti-gun tone as long as he has been in office.
He is supported by all the NY city crowd and is elected perpetually, as are many of the same people who have put NY in the financial straits that they find themselves facing.

The good people in the upstate regions of NY are languishing under the regulatory and tax policies by the mostly anti-gun people who view hunting as a necessary evil due to the revenue stream it creates.



NCsmitty

 

[TexasRifleman]

I beleive the proposed big magizine ban from Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) is a done deal.

LOL really? What are you basing that on? The Speaker has already said the bill won't make it out of committee.

It's really too early to start the doom and gloom panic isn't it?

 

[X-Rap]

I think for now we are safe from new gun restrictions but don't forget what got us here today, grassroots efforts and horrible economic and freedom issues in our country brought a huge change from the fickle middle/independent voter.
The knee jerk reactions of the masses is always possible and the pendulum can swing at any turn of events, lets see how these new politicians hold their end up before we say the war is over.
The left and the press has plenty of fight in them and the truth matters little to either.

 

[Husker_Fan]

Democrat's know gun control is a losing issue. I've seen a lot of people open their eyes when shown the statistics and the drop in crime with expanded CCW laws. Heck, look at the CCW map of the U.S. from the early 90's to today. A lot of the states that have gone to shall issue are Blue states. Even if Republican's hadn't won the House, this would be going nowhere because the Senate would stop it.

And don't forget the anti-gun republicans like Peter King, who wants a 1000 foot moving gun free zone around politicians. Guns are a less partisan issue than ever these days and we need to hold all the politicians feet to the fire.

 

[330d]

The good people in the upstate regions of NY are languishing under the regulatory and tax policies by the mostly anti-gun people who view hunting as a necessary evil due to the revenue stream it creates.

Thank you for realizing that NY should be two separate states... As upstaters we suffer the wrath of downstate politics and useless policies generated by shortsighted morons. If it weren't home, I would be gone from NY in a short second. (And upstate truly is one of the most beautiful places I have ever been...)

 

[Grunt Medic TXARNG]

Any magazine ban would need to have an arbitrary number - and would affect beta c-mags, the new quadruple stack AR mags, and belts for belt fed weapons. With the country swinging to overwhenlingly allowed concealed carry and beginning to embrace constitutional carry, shooters and the politicians who represent them are starting to understand the implications of 'shall not be infringed'.

How long do you suppose it will take for California to overturn its ridiculous 'high capacity ammunition feeding devices' law - the one that states you can't have more than 10 roundds linked together unless they were possessed prior to the ban?

 

[GambJoe]

Speaking of NY politicians, Giuliani if offering himself as a modererate on handguns. It wasn't so when he was mayor. He was purely anti when he was mayor. Maybe he want's to loosen the laws to make it easier for the employees at his security company to carry. I think armed security make over 100hr in NYC.

 

[22-rimfire]

These politicians including Giuliani (sp?) recognize that the ways of West Coast and East Coast population centers are different from the attitudes and values that lie in between. However. I tend to vote based on a politican's belief system as best I can ascertain. If I support that general belief system, I tend to favor them even if they hold stated views that I oppose as long as those views do not constitute the wholeness that makes them what they are. It is THE reason I did not favor candidate Obama as I simply did not agree with his basic belief structure. Sometimes choosing a president or political representatives is a compromise just like life and I can live with that.

How many of you have spouses that do not agree with your views on gun control, gun ownership, or hunting? But you choose them for other more compelling reasons that you hope provide a sound family structure and belief system for you and your children.

 

[330d]

Good point, 22-rimfire.

One of the problems with living upstate, though, is that we could vote 5 times per election and our votes still wouldn't count towards anything. NYC covers every vote we could make. We are (excuse my pun) out-gunned at the polls.

 

[KBintheSLC]

Chuck's comment just proves that anything can be creatively misconstrued when agendas are at stake.

Thank you for realizing that NY should be two separate states... As upstaters we suffer the wrath of downstate politics and useless policies generated by shortsighted morons. If it weren't home, I would be gone from NY in a short second. (And upstate truly is one of the most beautiful places I have ever been...)

I feel your pain. Here in rural CA, people are very pro-gun. Sadly, the state suffers from laws dictated by meatheads in LA, San Fran, and Sacramento. The rest of the massive state is surprisingly very nice and level-headed.

 

[skwab]

I hate these situations where certain politicians force us to defend our rights and freedoms, using a tragedy like this as a backdrop, so it is spun that as a community we're a bunch of heartless gun mongers, when in reality the fact that this tragedy occurred had nothing to do with Loughtner(sp?) having a Glock 19 or a 33 round magazine. If he had driven his car into Rep Griffiths' table, killing 6 and injuring 13, would we be discussing limiting horsepower? Absolutely not. With the focus turned ever so quickly onto guns, the true issue of his mental status and lack of any intervention is completely and dangerously brushed aside.

Regardless, I'm not too worried - I feel like if any type of restrictive gun legislation was ever going to be seriously entertained, it would have been done with a majority Dem house, senate and Dem POTUS - with a repub held House, and with many Dems not in favor of restrictive gun legislation, shouldn't have to worry much.

 

[22-rimfire]

Shumer was just recently interviewed on Fox News and he presents himself as a very reasonable man with regard to gun rights. Beware of wolves in sheeps clothing. There is this consideration as I believe he would push for very strict controls on gun ownership and purchase if he felt there was any chance of legislative success. So, now he's coming out as a more moderate voice on the issue.

As I understand it, Shumer wants legislation to restrict detachable magazine size; force government groups such as the military to report drug issues when their screening indicates a problem, strenghtening the psychological fitness issue as a qualifier for the purchase of firearms; and requiring all firearms transfers to be routed through a FFL dealer (NICS checks). But he is now focusing on the mental health and drug issue due to Jared Loughner and probably the magazine capacity issue because he probably feels these issues will find support from pro-gun advocates.

On the drug issue, what if the results of drug screen by companies were required to be submitted to ATF? What if psychologists and family doctors were required to report to the government when the drug issue becomes evident? What about alcohol addiction or problems? Alcohol is a drug. It is a very serious question and with all kinds of privacy issues attached to them. What if drug testing was included in EVERY blood or urine test done by doctors as part of the Obama health care plan? The government has modified the requirements for school lunches.... because they pay for them, so why not that as part of the Obama health care plan? So many questions and no answers....

 

[esquare]

I beleive the proposed big magizine ban from Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) is a done deal.

I honestly don't think a mag ban would pass constitutional muster under heller with at least intermediate or strict scrutiny. The courts would need the rational basis which has already been taken off the table, IMO.

 

[330d]

What if drug testing was included in EVERY blood or urine test done by doctors as part of the Obama health care plan?

And I motion to go further and say for ANY socialist program our government offers up to and including welfare. How is it fair to have to pee in a cup in order to be gainfully employed, but not for a free handout from our wonderful politicians?

/rant

 

[Furncliff]

The handouts aren't from politicians, they're from us. And I for one don't want people who need our help to be required to pass any kind of test, before they get our help.

I DO want the pilot of my next airline flight tested for drugs.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

... that the reason people want less gun control now is because so many gun control laws created in recent years (and he specifically used the Brady law as an example) have been so successful, the american public doesn't feel the need for more.

In what way have they been successful?

 

[beeenbag]

The handouts aren't from politicians, they're from us. And I for one don't want people who need our help to be required to pass any kind of test, before they get our help.

Around here most of the people I know on these government handout programs abuse it. I would love to see all these lazy pill heads drug tested before they give them a working mans money. If you need the help and have to have it then you wouldn't have a problem peeing in a cup for help.

 

[xXxplosive]

Saw Schumer on Fox today with Shepard Smith......he actually said he is not against 2A but wanted some restraints on cartridge capacity....he told Shepard he doesn't want to take away you uncle's deer hunting rifle or duck hunters shotgun. He doesn't oppose the second ammendment but wants restraints placed on the purchase of handguns by the mentally ill.....Geeezzzz can these guys change a story 180 degrees to suit their situation.

IMO, they should ban attorneys from running for public office....this is one reason why the conduct of our elected officials is so vicious....they're all lawyers with egos to match their hat size.

 

[Travis McGee]

"We're going to hammer guns on the anvil of relentless legislative strategy! We're going to beat guns into submission!"
~Senator Charles Schumer, 1993