Here is there released text of said bill.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2022/06/21/senate-gun-bill-text-released-n2608993
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2022/06/21/senate-gun-bill-text-released-n2608993
In terms of its effect on us, this is a nothingburger.
Sure, but they're facing a wipeout this November. It hasn't dawned on some Democrats that the gun issue is a loser for them, particularly among traditional Democratic base groups like blue-collar workers and Latinos. On the other hand,…
I was once Wyane. Super hot/crazy girlfriend into all sorts of wicked games in the bedroom, into all sorts of headgames outside the bedroom. Said GF goes nuts one night...boredom while I was at work...I come to off the deep end NUTS like you've never seen. Said girlfriend takes off drunk, gets pulled over for DUI, tells cops she was trying to get away from an "abusive" sexually deviate boyfriend...so she had no choice but to drive drunk...shows cops whip marks on butt from previous nights bedroom games....Said girlfriend files PFA (what PA calls TRO), spills guts in court, with entire intimate details of relationship over the previous 18 months...drags every ugly detail into it...gets granted 18 month PFA by whiny liberal female judge...all so she could get out the DUI, which didn't work for her. Oh, and my lawyer was the worst hack I've ever seen too...but only one I could get in the 3 days I had before the hearing.Obviously the term ''us'' excludes the otherwise A-Ok A-B student turning 19, who wants to purchase a shotgun, and is denied by some strangeness in this neu law. Let's call him George, poor George. Born in a purple state, so, there will be no recourse to the infringement.
Oh, let us now converse about Wayne's smoking hot 24 yr old but everyone knows she's nuts GF. After the 33rd breakup, Wayne says, ENOUGH. Had to call the Sheriff to get her stuff out! Belligerent! Of course she didn't get arrested, most time women get a pass...
Then she dropped a dime after smacking her own self , falling down drunk. Blames Wayne. 3 seconds later knock knock. Now, Wayne has allll the rights money can buy (attorney etc.) allowed to him on a $42,000 start up salary, and raising a kid one parent. Perhaps ''us'' who stood by , drooled, or otherwise let the law go forward w/o so much as a phone call can pass the hat, make a donation so Wayne doesn't have to take the deal. Of course, no way to stop the wrath of the newz media; Wayne is also Caucasian.
Off with the hypothetical -but probable- and on to real things happening to ''us.'' Just heard Sen. Mike Lee speak moments ago, there are serious and egregious rules violations within the Senate provisions on this bill. Lets start with, not enough time to read i.e. 2 HOURS. No amendments are going to be allowed once on the floor shucks, why have committee hearings if there's no amendments so, that's tossed also.
Awful lot of us being excluded from, ''us'' as I see it! !
Back to the WWI outfits I would be surprised if that's not some type of leftist militia group, standing in the back as, well, intimidation. I might be wrong on this point out of several I brought up in post #102 I suppose
…you have RINO’s that want to go down with them.
If nothing else it shows me that you are not a very good politician when you capitulate unnecessarily.
It hasn't dawned on some Democrats that the gun issue is a loser for them, particularly among traditional Democratic base groups like blue-collar workers and Latinos. On the other hand, the urban elites who support gun control would vote Democratic anyway. In other words, the gun issue does move votes, but on a net basis, away from the Democrats.
Depending on how the ATF implements this, a "bright line" definition of "engaged in the business" could make it easier to get a "kitchen table" FFL. Right now, the biggest impediment is maintaining business premises that don't violate local zoning laws. If the overriding concern is whether guns are sold for profit -- indeed, if an FFL is required if guns are sold for profit -- the ATF would almost have to ease up on the zoning requirements.Honestly my read the biggest impacts will be defining FFL as selling guns for purpose of profit rather than the current murky primary business definition
The "enthusiasm gap" is way in favor of gun owners. That's why opinion polls purporting to show large support for gun control are misleading. For gun owners, who have "skin in the game," the issue is existential, and they vote that way. For gun controllers, the issue is theoretical, and it's one of many issues on which they base their votes. The other thing to remember is that the important vote is the incremental vote. Each side has its base, but the voters in the middle are the ones that decide elections. An issue like guns does move voters in the middle, especially if their ownership of their guns is being threatened.I just think most people don’t really care, apart from a few hard core type on both sides.
I sincerely hope you’re right, the problem could still be those people in the middle are likely reactive, as in to little to late.The "enthusiasm gap" is way in favor of gun owners. That's why opinion polls purporting to show large support for gun control are misleading. For gun owners, who have "skin in the game," the issue is existential, and they vote that way. For gun controllers, the issue is theoretical, and it's one of many issues on which they base their votes. The other thing to remember is that the important vote is the incremental vote. Each side has its base, but the voters in the middle are the ones that decide elections. An issue like guns does move voters in the middle, especially if their ownership of their guns is being threatened.
Depending on how the ATF implements this, a "bright line" definition of "engaged in the business" could make it easier to get a "kitchen table" FFL. Right now, the biggest impediment is maintaining business premises that don't violate local zoning laws. If the overriding concern is whether guns are sold for profit -- indeed, if an FFL is required if guns are sold for profit -- the ATF would almost have to ease up on the zoning requirements.
Feinstein just added an amendment to raise the age to purchase to 21.
purely political
It remains to be seen if that is added to the bill or if she simply submitted an amendment for consideration. We'll see if it is just a gesture for her constituents or a push to change the age to purchase. If the latter it will poison the effort and the bill will crash before the recess OR it is assumed to be unconstitutional to age limit 18 year olds under federal law and will be killed in the courts (we know that filings are already written and ready to go regardless of the final language of this legislation that will throw it into the courts).
My understanding of the creation of this bill may be incorrect, so I apologize if it is, but the gun control part of this bill was added as an addendum to a bill that had been introduced several months earlier by Marco Rubio to rename a post office in Florida. {Pause for effect} What?? The bill passed the senate but was stalled for several months in the house.I don't see why this would not get added to the House version of the bill. Her side really wants this, and her side has total control of the bill creation process in the House
And as stated some of the turn coat RINOs are either not up for reelection this year or are retiring. Blunt is one of them. He is retiring and could care less about the people he represents.
My understanding of the creation of this bill may be incorrect, so I apologize if it is, but the gun control part of this bill was added as an addendum to a bill that had been introduced several months earlier by Marco Rubio to rename a post office in Florida. {Pause for effect} What?? The bill passed the senate but was stalled for several months in the house.
By choosing to add something to a bill that had already passed the senate was an underhanded, fastrack way to push this through the Senate and into the House where they know it should pass easily. If the House makes any changes to the amendment then it likely has to go back to the Senate again and might actually get looked at and discussed more closely.
My understanding of how this works is probably wrong. My parents were married, and I work for a living so I don't understand the political mindset. Perhaps others here who have had to deal with these types involved can illuminate us.
I don't see why this would not get added to the House version of the bill.