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  1. alan

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    ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP
    America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization
    (You are receiving this message because you requested JPFO Alerts
    Subscribe/UnSubscribe instructions near the end of the message)

    September 7, 2003

    ALERT: BIG BROTHER IN YOUR HOLSTER: YOUR HELP NEEDED IN CHICAGO (AND
    EVERYWHERE)

    [This Alert is in 4 parts]

    PART 1:

    BIG BROTHER IN YOUR HOLSTER:
    YOUR HELP NEEDED IN CHICAGO (AND EVERYWHERE)

    * If you don't want Big Brother to stick himself right inside
    your guns, read this.

    * If you live near Chicago or know activists or media people
    there, read this.

    Two companies, NEC and Hitachi, have announced radio-frequency
    ID chips (RFID) the size of the period in this sentence. These
    chips broadcast a "unique identifying number" to nearby
    scanners - numbers that can be read through your clothes, your
    holster, or your fanny pack. The RFID industry has already said
    it wants *EVERY, SINGLE PRODUCT MANUFACTURED ANYWHERE IN THE
    WORLD* to carry these chips. And NEC quickly announced one of
    its first intended uses - to track bullets. Every bullet ever
    manufactured on the planet.

    It gets worse for gun owners, as you'll read in JD Abolins'
    explanation, below.

    But if you live near Chicago or know activists in the area, you
    can help prevent this. CASPIAN (http://www.nocards.org/), the
    consumer privacy group, is organizing a protest for September
    15-17. Read the information below. Then, if you can put CASPIAN
    in touch with any Chicago activist groups or media people who
    might get involved, please contact Katherine Albrecht
    (kma@nocards.org).

    When we say activists, we mean any kind - RKBA, religious, anti-
    globalization, privacy, freedom of speech. *Everyone's* rights
    are threatened by universal RFID. The coalition against eternal
    tracking can be broad and strong. If you can join the protest
    yourself, plan to go.

    Every study shows that, when ordinary people learn about the
    plans for these chips, they are horrified. The industry is on
    the defensive. The more people learn, the more they'll say NO
    to this stupid, intrusive idea. The CASPIAN protest is not a
    useless plea to politicians. It is to alert the public and let
    the industry know that we won't put up with Big Brother - not
    in our holsters, not in our cereal boxes, not in our targets,
    not in our money, not in our primers, not in our books, not in
    our cartridge cases - not anywhere.

    PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING MESSAGES FROM KATHERINE ALBRECHT AND
    JD ABOLINS

    THEN HELP IF YOU CAN!

    A sessage from Katherine Albrecht:

    On Sept 15-17 the nasty men at the Auto-ID Center are officially
    launching their EPC (RFID) "spy chip" network at a convention at
    McCormick Place in Chicago. You may be familiar with their plans
    to use tiny speck-of-dust sized computer chips to number every
    item on the planet and track it (and us) all via the Internet.

    In addition to being an ardent 2nd Amendment supporter, I am the
    founder and director of CASPIAN, the organization that has
    mounted a worldwide campaign against Benetton, Gillette,
    Wal-Mart and others in the use of RFID "spy chips" in consumer
    products.

    RFID technology is particularly worrisome for our 2nd amendment
    rights, since there is talk of using these nearly imperceptible
    chips to tag bullets and guns, making them identifiable at a
    distance and secretly registrable to their purchaser via credit
    card and point-of-sale records.

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
    In response to the upcoming Chicago event, CASPIAN is planning
    both a physical protest at McCormick Place on Tuesday,
    September 16 at 10:00 AM and an online "virtual" protest as
    well.
    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    I am hoping you will consider protesting with us and helping
    drive turnout to the event among your membership and friends in
    Chicago.

    In freedom,

    Katherine Albrecht, Ed.M.
    Founder and Director, CASPIAN
    Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion and Numbering
    (877) 287-5854

    http://www.nocards.org
    http://www.spychips.com
    http://www.boycottBenetton.com
    http://www.boycottGillette.com

    = = = = = = = = = =

    PART 2:

    Here is a commentary on another aspect of RFID and firearms:

    RFID and Firearms: Every Bullet Will Have Your Name on It!
    by JD Abolins

    At first glance, radio frequency ID (RFID) tagging technologies
    seem unrelated to firearms issues. After all, most firearms in
    common use today have few electronic components, right?

    While it's true that the basic firearm can be made without
    electronic components, an overall technology trend has been for
    electronics and firmware (software embedded in chips) to be
    applied to technologies that have, up to now, been primarily
    traditionally mechanical or large-scale electrical. This has
    been happening to automobiles. It is becoming harder and harder
    for the average car owner or small independent garage to work
    on newer cars.

    *** The Push for "Smart Guns"

    Firearms are facing such a push. Some military firearms are
    already getting electronic components for sighting, etc. In the
    civilian area, some gun control groups are pushing for "smart
    gun" technologies that are supposed to fire only when handled by
    the designated owner. In New Jersey, this is being pushed by
    law. The New Jersey Institute of Technology is embarking on
    research to develop "smart gun" technologies.
    (See http://www.njit.edu/publicinfo/newsroom/sglinks.php)

    One of the several approaches considered for identifying
    authorized handlers to the firearm is a token such as a ring
    that "unlocks" the firing mechanism.

    Well, RFIDs would fit into this approach and may become
    incorporated into some of the "smart gun" designs.

    Incidentally, many of the approaches for "smart guns" are
    pushing for a departure from the traditional mechanical firing
    mechanism in favor of electromechanical or even 100% electronic
    ones. (Besides making integration of user verification systems
    with the firing functions, the electronic approaches can make
    bypassing the "smarts" more difficult than with mechanical
    firing mechanisms.)

    *** RFIDs can Affect Gun Owners even without "Smart Guns"

    The "smart gun" is not the only place where RFIDs can show up in
    firearms. Consider these possibilities:

    * Every firearm and, more importantly, every round of ammunition
    is RFID tagged. Remember the proposals for the tagging of
    explosives and gunpowder? Well the RFID allows much more
    detailed tagging and tracking. For example, every cartridge
    could have multiple RFIDS the tie together the bullet and the
    casing. Find a bullet lodged in a tree and 30 empty casings from
    the same type of cartridges and the RFID could tell which casing
    was connected to the bullet.

    While this may provide more data for forensics, the next layer
    of RFID-enable connection carries a big whammy: Every bullet
    directly traceable to a specific person -- whether or not the
    "smart gun" tech takes off.

    If you have somebody currently take a few cartridges or swap
    some of theirs for yours, not much comes up in regards to
    traces. But if every bullet literally has your name on it, the
    swap of bullets can have drastic implications. Framing becomes
    a big possibility.

    * A variant of "smart gun" tech might be to check for the
    munitions to make sure they are RFIDed. In such a case, "silent"
    non-RFID ammunition -- say, home loaded ones -- would not allow
    the firing function to be active. Or perhaps it would allow
    home-loaded munitions to be used if they are RFIDed. So if you
    purchase the supplies to load your own, you might have to use
    RFID tagged casings, bullets, etc.

    * A similar thing could occur for the firearm components to
    discourage "unapproved" modifications. Stock and barrel length
    modification might even be discouraged by having the firing
    verification system check for special set of RFIDs in the end
    of the barrel and the stock. (This is very hypothetical
    example just to illustrate the concept of RFID as a way to
    make implements "self-aware.")

    * After a period of such technologies being pushed out, it may
    become mandatory to have all firearms and munitions RFID-
    readable. Even antique muzzle-loaders might need to be
    "implanted" to be legal. There may be a push for severe
    penalties for having a "silent" firearm. The RFID, then, could
    be used to enforce the various "gun free zones". (Of course,
    criminals and thugs of all kinds would love this as a way of
    finding unarmed civilians.)

    Side Note: As various things go, it is likely that police and
    other authorities will seek to have non-RFIDed firearms,
    especially for undercover work. Such firearms would become
    valuable on the black market and elsewhere.

    * Then the permits, hunting licenses, etc. are likely to be
    among the earlies firearms-related items to get RFIDed.

    J.D. Abolins

    = = = = = = = =

    See second part
     
  2. alan

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    sent by JPFO, second part

    sent by JPFO, second part
    PART 3:

    Tagging bullets and guns is definitely on the technologists'
    minds. Just this week I read this chilling comment:

    "FEC...chief executive Kunioki Ichioka told reporters that the
    chip can...be inserted into the human body, animals, bullets,
    credit cards and other items for verification purposes, and can
    replace price bar codes used to tag products."

    (See: http://tinyurl.com/mkz2 [long URL reduced] )

    He is referring to a new RFID chip the size of the period at the
    end of this sentence. Not only could these chips be fabricated
    into every shell casing, but the tiny chips could be sprinkled
    directly into gunpowder at the point of manufacture, making it
    both identifiable (functioning like easy-to-read DNA) and
    traceable to the individual purchaser.

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    So how easy will it be for criminals to disable these chips ... I bet there's already an easy way to do it and soon it too will be on the net.

    Again, another law that they pretend its to control criminals, but is really to controll the law abiding

    :banghead:
     
  5. KarlG

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    In order for something to transmit a radio frequency (RF) it needs some power source. How are these things powered? How long does the power source last? How would the "chip" withstand the pressures inside the chamber of a gun and continue to transmit? What is the cost per chip? If I were to purchase a box of 50 shells, how much more would it cost "with chips"?
     
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    At least some of the "micro" chips are powered by the reader. Inert untill hit with RF from reader and then return that RF in a modulated state so it carrys information. No batteries required.

    Sam
     
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    How possible would it be to just zap the things with some sort of EMP to fry them?
     
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    We can expect more of this in the future if we keep engaging the anti's with crime stats and not a civil liberty provided to overthrow government! :banghead:
     
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    This is just a miniturized version of what is used on railroad cars and locomotives. This makes it easier for tracking where you lost that 100 ton grain car.

    Yes, EMP can disable them. Railroad had problem with Air Farce search radar killing units as they passed by. These little buggers might be somewhat easier to kill, depends on how they are put together.

    The first thing that should be tracked with these devices is all govt. employees, elected officials, judicial officials, and others of a similiar ilk. Then their locations should be continously broadcast and tracked with records on internet.

    Looks to be the only way the Watchers can be properly watched.
     
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    LoneStranger wrote:

    "The first thing that should be tracked with these devices is all govt. employees, elected officials, judicial officials, and others of a similiar ilk. Then their locations should be continously broadcast and tracked with records on internet.

    Looks to be the only way the Watchers can be properly watched."

    Seems like a good idea, except for the following. As is the case with "smart gun" legislation, where the cops are exempted from such requirements, the groups you mentioned above mentioned would not be required to carry such devices, nor would they be applied to such special personages. Such requirements would apply only to the great unwadshed, otherwise known as the citizenry and their possessions.

    Look at all the special exemptions, special considersations, special circumstances already existent.
     
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    That's why I specified those particular groups.

    If they are not willing to be so tagged, or they run about whining and crying, then it should be best evidence that there is no good in it.

    Sauce for gander, Sauce for goose?
     
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    Alan: great post. RFIDs of various types are going to creep into our lives, I fear. They are already in many tires, and other mass produced expensive products. There are many "good reasons" to put them in tires, but the potential for mischief is great, with unknows agencies able to put readers at toll booths, city garages etc. Eventually we will be trapped in an unescapable 24/7/365 seamless universal surveillance society.
     
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    New Government Agency: DIP Sh*ts Division ... Digital Information Police - Spying with High Information Technology Division ... :neener:
     
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