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I've now had experiences with "security" at two different venues that have led me to believe that event security is mostly a bogus sham...
Note that on both occasions, I visited the event web site and no mention was made to banning firearms and concealed carry. It wasn't until after waiting in line and showing up at the door, that I was confronted with a check of my person for "weapons".
Incident #1... a large arena (located in a sketchy area of a sketchy city) which is the home stadium for a semi-pro hockey team. I was there with my wife and kids for a Disney ice show (skating princesses, etc...) and they had a pat down at the door. I was carrying a compact 9mm OWB at 4-o-clock with a fleece vest as a cover garment. Over that, I had a heavy winter coat. The guard had me hold my coat open wide and patted me down, placing his hand right on top of my piece, and then waved me through.
Incident #2... a medium sized concert venue hosting a popular commedian. I was carrying an LCP in an ankle holster, when the guard instructed me to remove any metal from my pockets and to hold it in my hands while he waved a metal detector over me. The metal detector beeped at my belt buckle and my ankle. The guard just waved me through.
As with any safety or quality program, the results are mostly a function of human behavior, and so far, I've walked right through with the very object on my person, that they are trying to prevent the most.
Met thinks these are faux measures, that are probably meant to placate insurance adjusters and to lull patrons into a false sense of security.
Note that on both occasions, I visited the event web site and no mention was made to banning firearms and concealed carry. It wasn't until after waiting in line and showing up at the door, that I was confronted with a check of my person for "weapons".
Incident #1... a large arena (located in a sketchy area of a sketchy city) which is the home stadium for a semi-pro hockey team. I was there with my wife and kids for a Disney ice show (skating princesses, etc...) and they had a pat down at the door. I was carrying a compact 9mm OWB at 4-o-clock with a fleece vest as a cover garment. Over that, I had a heavy winter coat. The guard had me hold my coat open wide and patted me down, placing his hand right on top of my piece, and then waved me through.
Incident #2... a medium sized concert venue hosting a popular commedian. I was carrying an LCP in an ankle holster, when the guard instructed me to remove any metal from my pockets and to hold it in my hands while he waved a metal detector over me. The metal detector beeped at my belt buckle and my ankle. The guard just waved me through.
As with any safety or quality program, the results are mostly a function of human behavior, and so far, I've walked right through with the very object on my person, that they are trying to prevent the most.
Met thinks these are faux measures, that are probably meant to placate insurance adjusters and to lull patrons into a false sense of security.
