Sharpener suggestion?

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I currently use on of the Gatco systems that holds the knife and you have the honing stone on a selected angle, I hate it. The knife "holder" doesn't work well, and mars the blade. It is horrible for small blades and I find that it does not give a great edge. Also, the serrated sharpenr is the pits. Any suggestion?

Thanks in advance.

Mr. Tettnanger
 
I recently picked up one of the Spyderco Sharpmakers. So far, I'm impressed with the job that it does. I'm getting blades shaving sharp with very little effort.
 
I'm a huge Sharpsmaker fan. My only wish is that the diamond rods for it (good for reprofiling...the stock rods work just fine for sharpening) were not so expensive. Other than that, it is an awesome system.

Regarding marring, try putting some very light masking tape on the blade where it contacts the clamp. Lansky systems are waaaaay overrated IMHO.
 
I'm a firm beleiver in free hand sharpening, once your good at it you can sharpen anything. It is kind of expensive to get a good set of bench stones, but you can start with the basics and collect them as you go (just like guns :D )
I won't go too far into the whole diamond vs. water stone vs. oil stone thing as I have a mix of all of them and find that they all have their place.
A combination water stone, or a soft arkansas and a hard arkansas would be an inexpensive way to start.
The nice thing about the water stones is they are usually pretty big and cut pretty fast. King makes a combination stone thats something like 800 or 1000 grit on one side and 4000 grit on the other (take note that japanese stones use different numbers than we do, 1000 grit on a japanese stone is like a soft arkansas or medium diamond stone). The downside to water stones is they have to be stored in a container of water (tupperware works, steal one from your mom/wife/girlfriend....maybe offer to sharpen kitchen knives if you get caught) and they dish out alot faster than other stones.

Oil stones store easily, and wear very well. They cut a little bit slow on some of the new stainless alloys, but thats not a big deal unless you've got a lot of reprofiling to do. It is getting harder to find good quality oil stones. Make sure it has a nice smooth face without a lot of voids in it. I've actually seen some pretty decent ones at lowes and wal mart (made by smiths).

I'm only a fan of diamond stones for rough work, even the fine grit ones tend to leave a rough edge in comparison to what I can get with the other stones. They do cut faster than anything else and don't require water or oil. Getting a nice sized one is too dang expensive for my blood, least considering I already have all these other stones.

I guess I should also add that I used to do a fair amount of woodcarving, and now I'm a part time knifemaker so I get LOTS of practice, and maybe don't have a realistic view of the amount of effort a normal person wants to put into sharpening. Its second nature for me, but I suppose if you've only got a couple knives and don't use them much it might be hard to keep your skills up :confused:

The sharpmaker is highly recommended, but takes forever to do any heavy work. Thats just the nature of ceramic stones. They're very fine grit, and leave an unbeleivable polish on the edge. I've actually got a big ceramic bench stone I use for finishing knives off before stropping (can filet printer paper)They just aren't meant to remove a lot of material. One way around the diamond sleeves, is I've talked to folks who just wrapped the ceramic rods in wet dry sandpaper. Sounds like a good idea to me, but I haven't tried it

Or if you like the concept of the gatco, a similar system is put out by lansky that isn't overly expensive. Supposed to be fairly good. I don't know which one ranks better.
Or you could go all out and get an edge pro apex. This is the top of the line in fixtures, but costs a lot. I've heard you can get pretty impressive results with it though. And at least for awhile, as a promotion the guy who produced it would sharpen a knife for you (think you had to pay shipping) for free, so you could see the type of results. Haven't heard much talk about that in awhile though.
 
I have a Lansky sharpener. It also has the angle guide but does not mar the blade. It seems to do the job very well. Free hand is how I was originally trained, it takes time and patience.
 
I've used a Lansky system for about 6 years now. The first time you have to shaped a new knife It take a little work to reshape the angle of the edge, but once that has been accoplished one can put an edge back on a blade pretty quick. The trick is to pick a point on ever blade and always clamp back down at that point or you'll end up changing the angle. I like the Lansky because it gives a good clean edge that looks factory.
 
I too have a mix of stones to make my edgeds the best i can use. As a contractor i am sharpening all sorts of things, chisels, plane blades, knifes, and more and I really really like the diamond stones for a couple of reasons, 1 they are fast and easy (and if it is fast and easy then it will get done instead of waiting for a day when i have time) 2 They do a pretty good job. although you might be able to get a more polished job with a 6000 grit water stone, the diamond plates really shine in getting an edge close, and for must uses good enough, if you finish with a hard buffing wheel on a slow speed grinder you will end up with a scary sharp blade in just a few minutes, I use a 8" hard composition felt buffer wheel tied to a 1750 rpm motor, the pulleys reduce the speed to about 900 rpm. too slow to burn an edge but it works like a dream. If you use the buffer you can have an sticky sharp edge.
Now I mustsay this has never been tried on a serrated edge, i hate those things, a properly sharp blade eliminates the need for such gimmicks.
 
I have all sorts of stones and jigs accumulated over the years...

But if I had to start from scratch, here is what I would get:

1 large Medium Grit Diamond Stone
1 Spyderco Sharpmaker
1 Leather strop

I use these three items for 95% of my sharpening

I often use the sharpmaker stones (files) freehand on knives that need shallower angles than the jig provides. The quality of these stones are top notch.
 
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