Shipping a handgun to yourself...

[River Wraith]

seems to be a virtual impossibility. FedEx says either the sender or the receiver has to be a licensed dealer. UPS says that the handgun must be shipped from a licensed dealer to a licensed dealer. Instead of getting pissed off, I'll just revel in the money I'll save by not using their services.

 

[Bear Gulch]

If you don't tell them that it's a gun, you also don't get robbed for next day air.

 

[River Wraith]

You also aren't covered if they lose it...not to mention being in violation of the law.(not that it didn't cross my mind...)

 

[Control Group]

Honest question - how will you be in violation of the law by not declaring? Is there actually a federal regulation requiring you to disclose the contents if it is a firearm?

If yes, can you avoid the issue by shipping, say, the slide and the frame separately?

I know it to be legal to ship a gun to yourself if you're travelling. You can even ship it c/o someone else. UPS and FedEx, of course, can set their own policies, but they don't have the force of law. What does DHL say about the matter? Will they ship handguns?

 

[brickeyee]

There is indeed a federal regulation that you must declare. Technically it may not apply if you are sending to a licensee.
Splitting up the weapon will not help, since whatever part has the serial number is a firearm, even if it is not complete.

 

[Bear Gulch]

why not pack it with you when you go. Or find a FFL through Gunbroker.com?

 

[Graystar]

There is indeed a federal regulation that you must declare.

I'm still unconvinced of that. I think that if you UPS or Fedex a gun to yourself, there's no legal obligation to tell the shipper. However, I don't have any need to ship a gun to myself at the moment so I can't test that out.

 

[River Wraith]

I usually pack it with me, this time I wanted to not check a bag. I'm just going to check the bag and do things the way I normally do when I travel. It's cheaper anyway, but I just didn't want to take the big suitcase. (It's the only one that I have that will lock.)

 

[Cortland]

FedEx says either the sender or the receiver has to be a licensed dealer.

The FedEx regulations are actually worded in such a way that if you have a C&R FFL, you can send any kind of handgun from yourself to yourself. This is clearly not their intention, but it works.

 

[Felonious Monk]

Declare: I am shipping "machined parts".

 

[River Wraith]

I called the 2nd ammendment foundation and they were under the impression that FedEx and UPS would allow this. They must've changed their policy without telling anyone. Now their acting like this has always been their policy.

 

[Gray Peterson]

Someone posted a provision of the law in the other thread talking about FedEx. Can someone reference it please?

 

[EOD Guy]

Quote:
There is indeed a federal regulation that you must declare.

I'm still unconvinced of that. I think that if you UPS or Fedex a gun to yourself, there's no legal obligation to tell the shipper. However, I don't have any need to ship a gun to myself at the moment so I can't test that out.

It is contained in 27CFR 478.31. It requires notification when shipping to a nonlicensee. If you are unlicensed and shipping to yourself, you must declare the contents.

TITLE 27--ALCOHOL, TOBACCO PRODUCTS AND FIREARMS

CHAPTER II--BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, FIREARMS, AND EXPLOSIVES,
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

PART 478_COMMERCE IN FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION--Table of Contents

Subpart C_Administrative and Miscellaneous Provisions

Sec. 478.31 Delivery by common or contract carrier.

(a) No person shall knowingly deliver or cause to be delivered to
any common or contract carrier for transportation or shipment in
interstate or foreign commerce to any person other than a licensed
importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector,
any package or other container in which there is any firearm or
ammunition without written notice to the carrier that such firearm or
ammunition is being transported or shipped

 

[Graystar]

It is contained in 27CFR 478.31.

Oy

We went through this already.

 

[EOD Guy]

Oy

We went through this already.

Sorry, I forgot about that.

Still being stubborn, I see.

 

[Graystar]

Still being stubborn, I see.

Yes, you are!