Shipping a rifle to yourself?

[Sam1911]

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[dogtown tom]

Reading IS fundamental.........

Mighty_Joe_Young: And a firearm is not being transferred in this scenario. Phaethon was already legally transferred this firearm.

1. If you read Phaethon posts you'll find this:
"I got it when I was a lot younger (16 I think), I presume that it's technically his...". You cannot legally transfer a firearm to a resident of the state of Texas at that age....the firearm was not acquired legally by Phaethon.

2. It IS a firearm transfer. Buy a gun online from any gunstore in the country...you'll own the gun, but you cannot take possession until you complete a 4473 and pass a NICS check. If your responses to the 4473 make you ineligible or if you are "Denied" on your NICS check? Guess what? You still own that gun but cannot take possession. Possession however IS a huge factor. You can purchase, pay for, gift, bequeath or whatever.....the fact is ONLY the actual owner can ship the gun to himself. If ANYONE other than the actual owner does that.........it's a violation of Federal law.

3. Federal law makes no requirement that a firearm must be "sold" or that a commercial transaction must take place for Federal law to be applicable. If you can find such a requirement please post it.

4. You are hung up on the belief that the firearm must "be sold". Your inability to read and comprehend a simple sentence makes discussion with you difficult. I'll highlight the words that you conveniently ignore:

478.30 Out-of-State disposition of firearms by nonlicensees. top
No nonlicensee shall transfer, sell, trade, give, transport, or deliver any firearm to any other nonlicensee, who the transferor knows or has reasonable cause to believe does not reside in (or if the person is a corporation or other business entity, does not maintain a place of business in) the State in which the transferor resides: Provided, That the provisions of this section: (a) shall not apply to the transfer, transportation, or delivery of a firearm made to carry out a bequest of a firearm to, or any acquisition by intestate succession of a firearm by, a person who is permitted to acquire or possess a firearm under the laws of the State of his residence; and (b) shall not apply to the loan or rental of a firearm to any person for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes.
[T.D. ATF–313, 56 FR 32508, July 17, 1991; 57 FR 1205, Jan. 10, 1992]

Mighty_Joe_Young:Uhhh, no one did my legwork and I'm not about to do yours.

This is the classic response of someone who doesn't have proof.
You fail.

 

[Sam1911]

Alright. That appears definitive. Let's close this rather than face more acrimony in another round of misunderstanding.