Shirt tucked in?

[PWC]

Suspenders w/o a belt does have some sag, right, left, or cross draw all IWB but not bad. Depends on pants waistline construction. Jeans are stronger than casual khakis. With untucked shirt OWB is possible.

With a belt has no sag but clip-ons can't clip on belt loops too, and xtra bulk from clip on behind the belt is uncomfortable.

Access still depends on open over shirt or bottom 2 buttons left undone. Depends on how stiff the shirts plackett is to hang closed.

 

[JTQ]

The Mitch Rosen "Workman" is tuckable, and has a leather loop that could be explained as a key fob holder, though your handgun options may be limited.

https://mitchrosen.com/products/holsters/inside-waistband-holsters/

 

[Mizar]

...and has a leather loop that could be explained as a key fob holder...

I was going to suggest the same for the belt loop to blend in and not to draw attention - put a split ring with several keys on it and no one will give it a second look. Two loops will be harder to conceal, but it will also work to some degree.

 

[CapnMac]

With your shirt tucked in, how do you draw?

Well, as with all "deep concealment" a person needs to increase awareness, as there's no "fast draw" happening at all.
If a "situation" emerges, a person would want to be well past untucking the shirt and into having the arm in the hand already.
If surprised, well, you are back to that adage about not being able to "beat" a drawn gun.
As with all the rest in life, a compromise must occur.

What if the OP is wearing a kilt with suspenders

Well, one typically does not wear suspenders with a kilt (perhaps with a utilikilt, but that different).

From personal experience, a Desantis IWB will suffice, as wearing a vest and a tweed jacket are common to wearing a kilt.
Alternately, for less formal occasions, a Day Sporran often has plenty of room

This can take some shopping, but many of these will allow room for an IWB to clip on.

 

[.308 Norma]

Good news is that this seems like a great excuse to buy a new pistol

Alright! It sounds like a win-win situation for you. Congratulations on your new job too!
Anyway, back to the subject. Would you be interested in wearing a vest of some sort? There are some pretty nice looking, casual vests out there that are long enough to cover a gun worn OWB.
I prefer OWB carry myself, and late spring thru early fall here, I sometimes wear one of my half-dozen or so vests to cover my gun if I'm wearing a tucked-in shirt when we head for town or church.
Of course, if I'm wearing a long coat or jacket a vest isn't necessary even with a tucked-in shirt - until it comes time to take off the coat or jacket while we're indoors. Then I wish I'd have remembered a vest.

 

[Mizar]

Well, one typically does not wear suspenders with a kilt (perhaps with a utilikilt, but that different)

It was just a gross exaggeration trying to show, that sometimes we pick up and cling to made up problems in absence of real ones. In other words - we don't have a problem here, so we should invent one.

Would you be interested in wearing a vest of some sort?

A proper fitting suit vest is reaching slightly bellow the belt - it will not cover well even an IWB holster, let alone an OWB one.

 

[JohnKSa]

I've done a lot of carry using a "Smart Carry"/bellyband/thunderwear type "holster" worn just below the belt line in the front and a little to one side. It is not comfortable and the gun is slow to access so I don't do it unless nothing else will work.

The gun needs to be small and slim and have no sharp edges/corners on the side that will be toward your body or you will notice them. At first. Then after an hour or two you will curse them. Towards the end of the day you will curse the gun designer and manufacturer too.

I'm sure there are folks here that will tell you with earnest sincerity that they have carried a Beretta 92 with a red-dot sight AND a 4" Ruger GP100 plus spare mags and speedloaders all tucked into a single belly band and it never bothered them for a second, it never caused them a bit of problem when trying to use the bathroom and that, in fact, it was so trouble-free and comfortable that they found it difficult not to break out into song as they went about their day, but I'm telling you that it is not like that for me. Believe me when I say that you need to put some thought and care into picking a small, light gun that's going to be friendly to the things it's going to be pressed against all day by the force of the elastic that keeps the bellyband in place. If you don't, you will regret it. Or, more likely, you'll just either stop carrying or sell/trade the gun to get one like I suggested.

Since the holster is soft and doesn't protect the trigger and since most of the time the gun will be pointed at things I consider important, I won't carry using this method unless the gun has a good manual safety with a very positive detent--something that won't get wiped off accidentally.

There are two advantages to carrying with this approach.

1. It conceals very well.
2. At the end of the day, when you take it off, it feels really wonderful.

 

[CapnMac]

A proper fitting suit vest is reaching slightly bellow the belt - it will not cover well even an IWB holster

Really, if not using a tuckable holster, it's the bit above the belt line that wants covering, not below.

Just a thought

 

[Mizar]

Really, if not using a tuckable holster, it's the bit above the belt line that wants covering, not below.

Well yea, if you stand still... Try to sit, lean, or bend forward and then we'll talk again.

 

[CapnMac]

Well yea, if you stand still... Try to sit, lean, or bend forward and then we'll talk again.

Fair points.
Mind, at 4 o'clock, I've not had a lot of issues along those lines. And, if I do something like need to get under a desk or collect something off the floor, I get a jab to remind me to perhaps change the motion I'm using.
Not that I'm positing myself as a sample size any larger than one.

Mostly, I'd remind that "perfect is the enemy of good." That "we" fuss over "printing" far more than any other group. For the majority "out of sight is out of mind." They don't notice because they have no inclination to actually look.

But, we are all each different. Allowing for that range ought to be easier, but, we humans are imperfect and struggle in ever so many ways as a result.

 

[Bob Willman]

I have carried a Springfield XDS 45 for almost 10 years in a Crossbreed Super Tuck at 4:00 and a Crossbreed tuckable dual mag holder at 8:00. My typical retired attire is a T-shirt of some type tucked in but not anywhere skin tight. I blouse the shirt all around the waist so it is not against the skin anywhere around. Even a properly sized button down shirt with a longer tail to allow it to be tucked but still bloused is not difficult. Proper pants waist size is a consideration with all this hardware tucked in, but I find it to be quite comfortable and natural in all situations. Considering the speed of draw, this is my opinion only. I have reasoned that my life habits probably will keep me from being in a position where draw time would be a major factor. If I am wrong, then so be it. Life is full of choices.

NRA Benefactor Golden Eagle Looking forward to Indianapolis.

 

[Mizar]

Mostly, I'd remind that "perfect is the enemy of good." That "we" fuss over "printing" far more than any other group.

It's not about printing - with a well fitting suit vest you will be exposing a good 2 inches of your firearm while siting at the end of the day. With time passing your pants will be riding lower and your top garment will go up - it's a delusion that clothes and accessories will be in the exact same spot you put them in, starting your day. I've been there and I've done it - been carrying daily for almost 20 years, so I tend to think that I know at least something about what works and what not. Suit vests just do not offer enough concealment - they are simply too short.

 

[Pendy]

I have used the Phlster Enigma with success, but I think anything bigger than the little micros like 43/43x, p365, etc. will create too big of an awkward bulge along the beltline too easily noticed. I also don't find appendix carry comfortable for all day carry - maybe a few hours at best.

I recently purchased the Covert Belt from Mastermind Tactics. It's intended to be very slim and worn under your pants. It has grippy material on the inside and outside which keeps your holster in it's place, and also keeps your shirt tucked in nicely (no worries of the part of your shirt shoved behind the clips on a tuckable holster coming out and exposing your firearm). No clips to be seen either in strong side or appendix, and it offers the option of wearing your gun in either position should you like to switch it up.

https://www.mastermindtactics.com/shop/covert-belt

 

[entropy]

What if the OP is wearing a kilt with suspenders and his shirts are too short to be tucked in the said garment? What if the only suspenders he posses are pink, but the kilt is a Chattan clan tartan and his holster of choice is cordovan - will he still be able to draw his gun with confidence, giving the said circumstances? Questions, questions...

.32 or .380 (or snub) in the sporran. It works.

 

[drobs]

Based on a recommendation from a friend, I just picked up a Bravo Belt (belly band holster).
https://bravobelt.com/products/grey-ghost
OMG!!! It is the most comfortable holster I've ever worn.

 

[Mauser lover]

Crossbreed has a belly band that has a real holster (kydex) attached to it. I wear it in the same place I would an IWB (4:00 for me), and tuck my button-up over it. I’ve worn it at work for several years now. Exactly what you are asking for, I believe.

 

[21H40]

Crossbreed has a belly band that has a real holster (kydex) attached to it. I wear it in the same place I would an IWB (4:00 for me), and tuck my button-up over it. I’ve worn it at work for several years now. Exactly what you are asking for, I believe.

Based on a recommendation from a friend, I just picked up a Bravo Belt (belly band holster).
https://bravobelt.com/products/grey-ghost
OMG!!! It is the most comfortable holster I've ever worn.

Those look like good options, thank you. For some reason, they don't seem to work for my G20

I guess I'm definitely going to have to get a little pistol for carry.

 

[Mauser lover]

Those look like good options, thank you. For some reason, they don't seem to work for my G20

I guess I'm definitely going to have to get a little pistol for carry.

I’d certainly look at the one with the kydex holster first. I had just the elastic one to start with, and carried that way for a year or so, but the crossbreed one is miles better. S&W Shield .45.

 

[drobs]

Those look like good options, thank you. For some reason, they don't seem to work for my G20

I guess I'm definitely going to have to get a little pistol for carry.

Yeah, look into for a sub compact 9mm.

 

[drobs]

Crossbreed has a belly band that has a real holster (kydex) attached to it. I wear it in the same place I would an IWB (4:00 for me), and tuck my button-up over it. I’ve worn it at work for several years now. Exactly what you are asking for, I believe.

How is the holster attached to the band on the Crossbreed? Is there velcro on the back of the holster?

With my Bravo belt, there is a reinforced square in the material, that the thumb strap attaches to, that protects the trigger.

 

[Spats McGee]

I've been able to carry for the past decade with an untucked shirt covering my handgun. It has worked well, I carried a pistol that most people consider too large for CCW without any real problems.

I've recently started a new job with a new wardrobe - I wear button up shirts that are tucked in. It is casual enough that I don't wear a tie or jacket. I'm not really interested in anything pocket carry.

Who has experience carrying in business clothes? What sort of holsters work best for IWB with a tucked in shirt?


Good news is that this seems like a great excuse to buy a new pistol

I used a Crossbreed Supertuck for about 4-5 years, then switched to the Stealth Gear Revolution. It looks like the Revolution has been refined and is now available as the SG-Ultralite. I have found them to be more comfortable than the CBST by a goodly margin. The key is the ventilated backing.

The process of tucking the shirt in over the gun is a pain. No two ways about it. It requires turning and tucking and cinching and cinching and turning and tucking . . . . TBH, I use my SG Revolution about 40% of the time I carry. Of that 40%, I actually tuck the shirt about 1% of the time. Maybe. Maybe less than that.

How strict is that dress code? IME, while employers don't want you 'out of uniform' by dressing down, very few will complain if you dress it up a little. So the question becomes whether you can dress up the uniform with a sport coat. If you go to the local thrift store, you can find some pretty good bargains, and they make for a very good cover garment. The only downside is that you're stuck with wearing the jacket until you're safe from having your CC pistol discovered.

Sounds to me like you need a new pistol....

Everything sounds like that around here.

 

[Mauser lover]

How is the holster attached to the band on the Crossbreed? Is there velcro on the back of the holster?

With my Bravo belt, there is a reinforced square in the material, that the thumb strap attaches to, that protects the trigger.

Velcro on the back of the holster, then the band wraps over it.

Tucking in the shirt is quite easy with the belly bands. I wear it at the same height as I would an iwb, and as long as I can unbutton my pants, I can easily get my shirt in the proper place.

 

[Iggy]

Try folding the shirt tail in the area of your gun UP INSIDE your shirt before you put it on.
Then tuck the rest in normally, blouse the shirt as you normally do. Your shirt still looks tucked if you fold it up at the belt line, but gives better access to your gun.
This gives your gun more room to move beneath the shirt and an additional layer of cloth to camouflage what is there.

 

[nugi]

Almost always tucked, use a Remora holster, appendix or 4, no belt clips. Better holster retention against skin than inbetween underwear and shirt, which also has the advantage that it’s super quick to tuck your shirt in around it while your elastic underwear band holds it in place

 

[Mizar]

I see that sport coats get mentioned once in a while, so I will offer this advice - for a hip carry it's better to choose a coat with a single back vent, because when sitting or leaning there is a chance to reveal your firearm with a double vent. Coats tend to pull up on your body when seating and the double vents sit approximately where your gun is, thus making it far easier to show.