Shoot First?!?

[Graystar]

The crime rate of TX cities is still lower than gun-free utopias like New York

I don't know what crime rates you're looking at, but the FBI's UCR say that Dallas and Houston both have a higher crime rate than New York City, and Texas as a whole has a higher crime rate than NYS.

 

[mbs357]

I'm going to assume that NC has 'duty to retreat' on the streets, but I'm sure I'm allowed to stand my ground in my home.
Is this correct?

Btw, Congrats, Floridians!

 

[Turtle Club]

The use of lethal force laws in Ohio SUCK. Here you or your family has to be in eminent danger of the attacker causing serious bodily harm (per Ohio revised Code) before the use of lethal force ie self defence can be claimed. Even in your own home!

 

[MikeIsaj]

The use of lethal force laws in Ohio SUCK. Here you or your family has to be in eminent danger of the attacker causing serious bodily harm (per Ohio revised Code) before the use of lethal force ie self defence can be claimed.

This is in line with what most state law says. It's not unreasonable to require a threat of serious injury to justify deadly force. Where would you draw the line?

And lethal force and self defense is not the same thing. Lethal force is an extreme level of self defense, pretty much at the top of the ladder. Presence, posture, avoidance, verbal warning and less than lethal combat are also self defense techniques that should be used in less extreme situations.

 

[MuzzleBlast]

This is a smear campaign. The state of Florida should sue for libel.

 

[axmurderer]

I'm glad Florida passed the "no retreat" law. From what I can find in Mississippi code, there is no obligation to retreat before defending one's self.
http://www.mscode.com/free/statutes/97/003/0015.htm

Of course, the anti-gun nuts will do their best to make this seem like a bad thing.

 

[patent]

From the gungrabber flyer:

A new law in the Sunshine State authorizes nervious or frightened residents to use deadly force.​

From a THR post:

Rumor has it they were handing them out at the airports in Fla.​

If I were to meet one of those fine folks in the airport, I think I’d tell them that their handing me the flyer makes me “nervous and frightened.”

patent

 

[Rezin]

Think it's cause FLA looks like a pistol?

 

[JohnKSa]

Couple of clarifications on TX law.

You don't have to retreat if you're in your home. You don't have to retreat outside of your home if "a reasonable person" in your place wouldn't retreat.

You can use deadly force to protect property, but the restrictions are significant. It's not ANYWHERE near as simple as a statement like "you can shoot them for taking property" implies.

And last of all, the fact that deadly force is legally justified offers no protection against civil liability.

 

[cxm]

Retreat In Texas

Actually not accurate...

Texas law requires you to retreat (other than in your home) if you can do so with safety...

Someone gave you bad info...

V/r

chuck

Whuppeee. We've never had to retreat in Texas. In fact here you can blow them away if they take your property without threatening your life. The crime rate of TX cities is still lower than gun-free utopias like New York or Chicago or Washington DC.