Shooting in my first High Power match, any tips?

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Greetings all. As part of my club's CMP clinic, I'll be shooting in my first match soon. I'm sure among us, there must be some avid High Power shooters. Since this a clinic event, I'm sure it will somewhat "less formal" than the average matches the club hosts. Nontheless, I was hoping some experienced shooters could give me some good background info and tips to get the most from my shooting.

-jagd
 
1) Keep your eyes open the whole entire time. :what:
2) Keep your weapon pointed at the targets the whole entire time. :rolleyes:
3) Try to not screech like a girl when the weapon fires. :rolleyes:

If only I'd had a mentor to tell me these things when I first competed.
 
Yup, be patience and do not panic. Take your time in the off-hand shooting you have 10 minutes relax and take your time on the shots.Relax after each shot use a stool and place the rifle butt on it and rest. Make sure during the 3min prep that you find your NPA.

In the sitting rapid once again take your time you have 60 seconds. use your prep period to make sure you get lined up with your NPA use smooth trigger control and concentrate on the front sight.

For the rapid prone make sure you once again use your 3 min prep period and get yourself into a comfortable position. Once again you have 70 seconds its a lot of time to get 10 rounds off.

Does all that make sense?Also what type of weapon are you using.

Also you should get 5 sighters. The best way to shoot the sighters for new people is from the prone position. Also I recommend holding six o' clock on the target.
 
Thanks for the quick replies. I'll probably be shooting an AR15A2 although I haven't ruled out a Garand. I'm much more aclimated to the AR, but probably actually prefer to shoot the M1.

I know there are many avid High Power shooters out there. I wonder what each person likes most about it? Or does it boil down to tuning the man, the rifle, and the ammunition to the highest degree? I could see where this might be fun. Throw in a little compettion, comraderie, and after shoot cook out, what's not to like?

-jagd
 
The ar is a more accurate platform. And easier to shoot especially when its going to be your first match. Wouldnt want you to find out what a "GARAND THUMB" is your first match.

I like it mostly because I get to go BANG BANG BANG. I also enjoy it because it is competition with myself. Other than that I do not have much of a reason, I just enjoy engaging targets with extreme prejudice for the black area of the paper.
 
Cool. I almost had a nine and a half pound rifle dangling from my thumb once. But only once. New found respect that day. My shooting experience over a hundred yards is sadly lacking. I'm hoping the match will inspire me to get more interested in becoming a rifleman. It also might hopefully convince me to get the glasses/contacts I should wear. What do you shoot with, SoCal?

-jagd
 
If you don't have a score book to keep track of everything, at least write down your windage and elevation dope so you'll have it for the next match. Be sure and bring water.
I used the six o'clock hold as well but with sort of a flat tire look...no white between the front sight and the bottom of the bull.

Highpower is tons of fun. Hopefully I'll get back in to it next year. They hold matches monthly at Camp Wolters in Mineral Wells which is only about 40 miles from where I live. Being a lefty, I'll probably stick with my M1 for right now. Been spending too much $ on Bullseye pistols. :)

Have fun out there.

Navy Vet & SWIFT Boat OIC
 
cdrt, thanks for your input, and more importantly, your service. SWIFT boat? Seems I should know what that is, but I can't quite place it. Not to get off topic, but is that anything like a PBR?

-jagd
 
Thanks Oneshooter, that's the way I'm looking at it. It's probably going to be a bunch of guys who want to get their Carbine! Include me in that bunch. I look at the match as kind of a "introduction to High Power" for many of us.

-jagd
 
RE: jagdpanzer

I shoot an match conditioned m1 garand and I have a match conditioned Ar 15

RE: CDRT
You have a standard 6 o'clock hold there. A sub six hold has small amount of white between the black and the top of the rifle front sight.
 
Don't take it too seriously. Go to have fun and don't have any expectations. Pay attention and learn what you can. Shoot as well as you can, but be satisfied with your scores and realize you can improve them if you practice.

But most of all, have fun and enjoy yourself, make friends and learn a bit.

Regards,

Dave

BTW, a cold Gator Aide and a couple sandwiches sure are nice if you've brought them in a cooler.
 
For me personally I do not bring food. I do however bring water. Usually room temp not to cold. Food will raise your metabolism which will raise your heart rate and that can cause you to wobble more. Do not starve yourself just do nt eat a lot.
 
Be aware that you will have to score for another shooter. Find out for sure what your responsibilites will be. The normal procedure is to score from the line using a spotting scope. Somtimes at clinics though they score from the pits instead.

You'll also need to count your shooter's shots during the rapid fire stages. If he fires too few or too many you need to be able to confirm how many he fired.
 
OK, My kind of thread.

I'm glad to see you took a clinic. Be careful though, High Power can be habit forming after shooting a match.

The platform you use is totally up to you. I know a couple of guys who made master and expert in the 1st year of shooting a AR. I learned on a M-14 and even though I use a AR myself, these 2 guys are in trouble when they pick up a wood gun.

Point is, the 30 teaches you to build solid positions. If you don't your shots end up in the trees.

The hardest thing outside of sight alinement, is making the fewest mistakes as possiable during the match. I use 4 mags for rapids. 2 have a white pasters stuck on each side. These are my 2 round mags. Make sure the ammo fits the mags and leave nothing to chance. I load my mags well before I'm called to the line.

Sights....record sight settings. Once you have them write them down. I have cut down clip board I keep my score book on. On the back of the clip board I have printed off my sight dope. I have sight dope for my M-1 in brown, My 308 m-1 has a fat green stock so the dope for it is green and for my AR I have it printed in black. Don't know what I'm going to do when my new upper comes in as I will have 2 black guns.

When setting dope adjustments, always start form the bottom. This way you won't stack 300 yard dope on top of 200 yard dope etc. (believe me, I've seen this trick more than once. I've also put another guns dope in too and that don't work)

Equipment. I know it's real easy to (for some) go out and get top of the line stools, scope stands and scopes. I would work on these items over time, see what works for everyone else and don't be afraid to buy used equipment. Most high Power Shooters worth their salt is always gong to help out the new guy the best they can.

The stool can be a bucket with a handle and lid. The shooting mat can be a piece of carpet. I would not cheap out too much on the scope as it is as important as the rifle in some cases. There are some good inexpesive scopes out there at Creadmoore and Champions Choice. There are a few other places as well. The scope stand should be a good one, as you don't want to be like me and have my then brand new scope take a dive while moved high for off hand.

Hearing protection. Some do fine with ear muffs. I find they get in the way for rifle and use ear plugs. I can't stand the foamy ones so I use the rubber ones on the string if I can't get the orange rubber GI plugs.

You will need some sort of sight black. I used the spary can stuff for many years but I do like the the black from the carbide flame. A small can of firm grip never hurt any one either if you're shooting a 30 cal.

Shooting mit. I like the cheap $18.00 ones the best. See what others are using and see if they will llet you try theirs out.

Sling. Buy the best you can afford. Turners are eay to get and are one of the better off the shelf ones out there. Get leather, not plastic. When you order the sling pick up a couple of spare keepers as well. This way you'll have then when you need them.

A couple of small repair parts for the rifle is good to have around. I carry a firing pin and cotter key, a spare extractor with pin and for an important match, a spare trigger assy. The extractor and pin are more likely to be used than any of the other parts. I did wreck a firing pin at a match once though, as I found out Federal match primers are not as tough as Remmington 7 1/2's using the same load.

Go to www.highpowerforum.com and review the sticky on positions. This is in the forum section. Good sight, good info.

Last, The front sight is your friend.
 
SoCalShooter bought up a good point for the rapids. New guys see the targets go up, throw themselves on the ground and start blasting away within the first second or two.

Take a little time and find that NPA, build a good solid position an then fire your first shot. I take about 11 seconds to do all of that and still have time to get my shots off. Place you second mag someplace close to you and always have it laying so when you pick it up the mag is going to be facing the right way. I try to sneek in a look through the scope to see where the shots went while doing the mag change. I can make quick sight adjustments if need be. When I first started shooting a AR and coming from my 308 M-1, I managed to stuff a mag in upside down and then another time in backwards. They don't work real well either way.
 
Forget what every other shooter is doing around you.
Be one with the mud, the target and your rifle.
Last tips,
The wind ALWAYS picks up just as you are about to squeeze the trigger.
It WILL rain on most Match days.
Freezing to the mat is a minor inconvenience.
Have fun! It will be one of the better experiences in life you will have.
 
jagd,

NPA is "Natural Point of Aim." This is where the rifle will be pointing when your body is relaxed and at rest. This is where your body wants to let the rifle shoot to, no matter how hard you fight with the sights and combat. Go ahead, ask how I figured out how important NPA is? ;)

My trick is to settle into my position, close my eyes, breath a couple of times and then open my eyes. See where your sights are pointed? Good. Are they on target? Maybe not. If they're not there, adjust your body and repeat the procedure. Once you have your NPA established, you should be able to close your eyes, breath and relax, and have your sights ON the bullseye where they need to be. Now you're good to go.

Oh, and relax and have fun! Bring water and food (if you need it; I'm one of those who needs a boost between stages, metabolism quirk), sunscreen, rifle, ammo, etc. The other shooters are willing to help you out as much as they can. Experienced shooters have been known to loan out scopes, stools, matts and such to new shooters who are squaded opposite of them.

Have fun and good luck! Pick whichever rifle you want, but my preference is for a match-prepped AR-15. YMMV, as always.
 
Natural point of Aim. When you relax, it's where the muzzle goes. If it's not in the center of your target, your not shooting correctly.

Bring a sweatshirt--it'll save you from losing the skin off your elbows. Don't bother buying any gear until you shoot a couple of matches--you'll only learn that you got the wrong things. It's easier to buy the right stuff after you get some experience.

Make each shot count. Shoot your slowfire fast and your rapidfire slow.

Ty
 
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