Shooting trespassing animals

[ol' scratch]

Scratch,

Geese and Ducks are migratory birds protected by both State and Federal law in Michigan. http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10363_10859-31034--,00.html

Rather than calling the police, as some have suggested, I would call the Department of Natural Resources and ask for clarification on whether the neighbor can feed these gamebirds legally. In addition, if the area where your dad lives is zoned, can the City's zoning regulations address the problem

This doesn't seem to be a police matter, but that's just my take based on the limited information here.

The ducks on Grandpa's property aren't wild. They are domestic rouens.

 

[lloveless]

Yep, Rouens are tasty, as well as the eggs. One a week or 52 a year would definitely put a dent in the population-eat the hens only. Then eat the drakes. Slowly they'll thin out and the neighbor might not even notice if done discreetly(one of the high powered air guns should do it)
lloveless

 

[Ky Larry]

An oldtimer I knew when I was a kid showed me how to control blackbirds and crows during corn planting season. He would clip some long hairs from his horse's mane. Then he would cut a notch in the top and the bottom of a kernel of corn with a pocket knife. Then he would tie the hair around the notches in the kernel of corn and leave about 2-3" of hair sticking out. As he was planting corn, he would occasionally toss a handful of these kernels behind his tractor. The blackbirds and crows would eat the corn and choke to death on the hair.
Before the bunnyhuggers and P.E.T.A. whack-o's burn down my house, yes it is cruel and indiscrinate as to speceies but it works. I'm not advocating doing this, I'm just recounting a story from my childhood.

 

[ArmedBear]

We ran into a couple of stray domestic chickens on a dirt road. Just for an evil bit of fun, my wife and I decided to turn our bird dog loose on them.

Let me tell you, there's very little in the world that's half as funny as watching a Vizsla chase a flapping chicken down a road at a full run. I don't think he wanted to catch it. He just wanted to keep nipping at it and chasing it.

I'm going to assume that domestic ducks and geese would be similar.

 

[RobNDenver]

The ducks on Grandpa's property aren't wild. They are domestic rouens.

OK, I misunderstood when you mentioned ducks and geese; I presumed that bonehead neighbor was feeding wild birds. If aforementioned neighbor can't keep his domestic birds off your father's property the cat option, the airgun option and the legal option (court order after your dad sues) ought to take care of this problem. Just be sure if he uses the airgun option that the birds he shoots are actually on his property and not adjacent to it. Sounds like your dad lives next to a tool.

 

[NoAlibi]

just curious...

ol' scratch
The ducks on Grandpa's property aren't wild. They are domestic rouens.

How would a game warden know the ducks and geese that were shot out of season and without a license and migratory game bird stamp were not "wild" birds?

 

[Nicodemus38]

in michigan, youd have to have a permit from the state or DNR to raise geese. and ironically unless the person has paperwork PROVING he purchased the animals in question from sold him domesticated stock, he can be fined/prosecuted for illegally trapping wild game birds.

also the DEQ can step in with the pond pollution as well. also must check with the township zoning board where grandad lives. owning that many foul may not be legal with the acreage he has.

 

[mljdeckard]

I would take pictures and call animal control.

There are two situations I can think of at the moment that justify moving lead in the front yard to stop an animal. One would be if a dangerous animal is posing a threat to someone, two would be if my livestock were threatened by a dangerous animal.

HAVING SAID THAT, geese can be NASTY. When I was a kid my neighbor had a gaggle that thought they owned the park across the street and everything in between. I was bitten a few times, and my dad made it clear that if the gate wasn't kept shut, we would be learning what goose tasted like. They never got out again.

 

[sniknah]

wrs840 makes a point here. Even if you have a right to kill a trespassing animal, you are ulitmately going to have a problem with the owner. I always tried to keep my dogs from getting loose, but I had one "escape artist" that always seemed to find a way out. If I found out you shot my dog you had better be looking over your shoulder from then on.


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[Bugman53]

I’m not going to kill it if it’s not causing problems. I don’t mind dogs but if it get after someone and the owner refused to keep their dog in control. Then I have no problem laying the dog out with 00 buck and throwing it in there front yard.

Keep in mind this is after repetitive attempts to tell the owner to keep his dog off my property and he says something like get lost its my dog he can be anywhere he wants to be and you can’t do a thing about it. Also the Dog is aggressive and we can’t come out of the house without it rising H#LL and trying to bite us. The dog will get 1 1|8 oz of buck shot.
Now I love some of our Nabors dogs and they come up here to play and I have no problem with that.

 

[neverjeg]

Sonic Bird Repellant

http://birdbgone.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=232&Itemid=95