Shot a revolver the other day. Did not like much.

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Hammerdown: FYI, my medical insurance doesn't cover mental health care... :neener:

You're causing me a lot of anxiety and lustful desires after looking at those pics.

Excellent photography of exceptional subjects. My hat is off to you, sir!
 
In my experience it can be difficult to get good with double action revolvers in DA mode. But once you do, there's nothing like it. The most difficult of all short guns to work with is the double action short barrel revolver, which is why it's strange to hear it suggested as the best firearm for a beginner.
 
[You're causing me a lot of anxiety and lustful desires after looking at those pics.Excellent photography of exceptional subjects. My hat is off to you, sir!/QUOTE]

Hello asknight
Thanks for the Kind words. It took me 25 Years of swapping and updating to get the ones shown. Anyone can do it, it just takes time and patients.I simply adore the K-22's S&W has made no matter what Vintage they are, and made this recent purchase of a seldom seen Bull Barrel 4" model as well. From what I understand, they made this model 2 Years, and I had not seen one before this, and then changed to the full underlugs that are more common, and one of those will be my next purchase. Hammerdown
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I have found that most .22 duds are a gun problem.

True, sort of. I have a revolver that almost NEVER duds. I have an auto that doesn't fire about 1/4 of the Fed lightening I try to shoot in it. The reason is partly the gun, partly the ammo. CCI fires 100 percent in that gun, but the gun has a very narrow firing pin. Fed lightening is not as consistently primed and that narrow firing pin will dud on it where the fat, round firing pin in my revolver will cap it fine.

So, if you have a gun that gets a dud now and then with cheap ammo, try some higher quality stuff in it. That might cure it.
 
I Agree! Must Cheap 22's are Junk!

I have NEVER owned or wanted some of the CHEAP 22's MOST are Pure Junk! I come from the days when HR's sold for $29.99 at hardware stores and RG's were $19.99 and you got what you paid For! Most of the HR's I've shot were HORRIBLE and Loose Barrels, Loose Cyl's ECT. And People can pick up scrap ammo off the ground or out of the DUD bucket and say they shoot good? I use real Ammo! Not Found Scrap!

Hammer! WOW! Thats some Beautiful Collection Of S&W 22's! You've added a few since we last shot together. The ones I shot of yours, would Drive Nails at the Indoor Range At Gun City USA! Nothing BETTER than a REAL 22 such as A S&W 17 like mine or my Colt 22 Officers Revolver from the 40's!

And LOVED the looks on peoples faces when you brought them out of your range bag. Even the Ladies were impressed! Like that young HOT one that was talking to your DAD about Guns! She Was REAL Impressed with your Guns!

NOW Thats SOME GUNS!

! Wouldn't trade ONE of my S&W's for ALL HR's or RG's on EARTH!!!
 
...Rohm (RG) in the same sentence.

They are nowhere even close in the quality chart.

Anyone who's been around revolvers for any length of time would know that.
Tell anyone in the H&R Collectors Associction (no I'm not a member) that all of their guns are junk and they'll laugh you out of the building.

H&R is to revolvers what Lee is to reloading. A less expensive but valuable alternative.
But there are those snobs who believe that the more you spend the smarter you are.


Rohms belong in the recycle furnace with the Clerke Technicorp crap. :barf:
 
I Must Be A SNOB!

Is this why these Great Guns and Company are NO MORE! They went Bankrupt for a reason. They tried to save the Company with The .32 HR Mag. and that put them even futher under. And was Bought out by I Believe, New England Firearms/Marlin in the late 90's maybe 2000?

I don't use or carry CHEAP Guns! I DON'T have To! I have Ivory Grips on My 1st Gen. SAA.'s that are worth more than any Three HR's. I don't carry my Lunch nor will I buy or carry a $75 HR when a Python or A Snubbie N Frame S&W can be bought! And I see all Kinds of HR's at Local Gun Shows Selling for $65-100! I have S&W Pres. Boxes worth more than most HR's.

If you want to talk Quality, lets talk HK's Or Old Colt 1911's Or Berretta's. But NOT HR's, or Ravens or the like!

And I would LAUGH at anyone that told me they Belong to the HR Collector Assc. or the Raven Collectors Assc! NOW THATS FUNNY!:barf: But I guess its true, some people have WAY too much time on thier hands!

But to each thier own. I bet there is a Yugo or Kia Collectors Assc. as well.

Not Me, I'm a Lifetime Member Of The National Corvette Museum And Corvette Collector Assc.!

I've worked Way Too Hard In My Life, NOT To Go For Quality!
 
S&W10mm, I may be a grammar snob, But YOUR Post IS VerY hArd tO READ! What happened to quality education?
 
Glad You Have Nothing To Do!

When I start Grading Threads On A Gun Forum! Boy, I Must Be BORED!

By The Way! 4 Years A UT Knoxville TN. How About Yourself?

Could I Have Typed Slower For The Forum Impared?

Glad You Need To KNOW!

THANKS FOR ASKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Is this why these Great Guns and Company are NO MORE! They went Bankrupt for a reason. They tried to save the Company with The .32 HR Mag. and that put them even futher under. And was Bought out by I Believe, New England Firearms/Marlin in the late 90's maybe 2000?

Well lets see, Colt has gone bankrupt several times and been thru several owners over the last couple decades. This same Colt, the original maker of 1911s has become a virtual non player in the market because Kimber and Springfield offered a higher quality product at a better price. The same can be said for Colt AR type rifles as opposed to Bushmaster, DPMS, Armalite, and others. Winchester, in case you didn't know, is no longer in business either. Expensive doesn't always equate to quality. I'm glad you have nice things, but you don't need to flaunt it here; thats just plain rude.
 
Alright, ENOUGH! My comments in my last post weren't High Road, and neither have any of the comments in the last few posts been High Road. We all need to stop bashing whatever we don't like for whatever reason. We can moderate ourselves and act like adults, or we can let this turn into flame war, have the mods lock the thread, and stop the flow of good advice to the OP.
 
Making an Educated revolver purchase from Personal Opinions

30 Years ago, I started out with my first revolver being a H&R 922. This was a double action . 22 Revolver, and back then I hadn't learned to appreciate top quality, and was buying on a budget that limited my Purchase power to this functional but Cheap made revolver. I had it for a couple of years, until I got the opportunity to fire a friends K-22 Smith & Wesson. That was the turning point in my selection of quality from there forward as well. I swapped out that H&R for a Smith & Wesson K-22, and never looked back. I also found the Old Adage often said, "You get What You Pay For" to ring very true once I stepped up, and Paid the price to own a revolver of this quality and durability, and when I swapped off that H&R quickly learned it was a Low resale revolver, that I Lost money on.


Hi
I am sorry if any Part of my response seemed to Bashing anyone in question here, But It was my intent to "Help" Educate The Thread starter with my years of good durable service from Smith & Wesson's, as it appeared he did not have a Good Positive first experience with the revolver he picked up, and this could set his mind to never own or shoot another, and this sure would be a shame with all the good selections out there, used or New. I Personally Like Smith & Wesson's for "FOUR" good reasons. Durability, availability, Past reputation, and stron resale. I Have Mostly revolver's that are shot often,Not Safe queens even the ones shown are shooter's and have been buying, selling and trying "all Brands" available for past 30 Years. I am Not a guy that goes off a Monthly gun report posted in New's Stand Magazines by a Journalist that is PAID to write it, or Enhance it's future sales, I am a shooter, and a Hand Loader Not a Journalist, and many times my Grammar has been the subject of Intimidation in Past Posts here and abroad that I have had, but that is all right to me, as I also know experience beats book smart in any arena, whether it be Gun's, work, future purchases or my every day walk in life. I can also say, I have had the opportunity to shoot, converse, and Personally get to Know High Road member "S&W 10MM", and this man is very successful Business man, That came from a Modest way of life Early on, and has made his life a success by experience of what he speaks, without being a Bragger of his past achievements or resorting to Punching a clock for the daily 9-5 Blue collar forced way of life most of us are chastised and Forced to do daily, and was helping Jesse James make an educated decision, as He has OWNED a Huge Gun shop, Bought, Sold, Swapped, and STILL own's more gun's than Most of us SEE in a Lifetime, along with had MANY personal phone conversations with Gun Manufactures, while being a gun shop owner of Dozen's of firearm's mentioned here that were NOT a positive result or experience for his customer's of which he valued, and Then actually ATE the price of a bad experience to only gain the trust of his customer's by replacing less than desireable gun's over POOR Quality to Please all involved, and HE Likes and Owns several S&W revolver's, so I Value his opinion Highly on the subject of revolver's or Semi-Auto's and have actually placed calls to him prior to purchasing one, to have him SAVE me from a bad experience, and believe his intent was to Educate the Original thread starter as well, since he appeared new to revolver shooting and had a terrible first experience, and if I was Him would be glad to hear other's Experienced opinion's on products that will not net the resale nor make the grade in durability or customer satisfaction. I Buy shoot and trade off the ones I spoke of, if they do not appeal to me. My response was from personal experiences, and I meant it to help Jesse James, the Original thread starter, select a revolver that would not discourage his future purchases of revolver's as well, as guide him into an educated buying experience of a revolver that will net back the hard earned money he spent for it, should he decide to swap it off later, it will also give back to the Purchaser rather than be a Loss. I wish I had someone with vast revolver Experience tell me what was worth the money, Back when I started buying revolver's and what wasn't through the years, as this would have saved me enough to add at Least dozen More Smith & Wesson's than I have now, that Would have been very collectible and expensive to Purchase today. Smith & Wesson is not a perfect revolver by any means, but they sure have been good to me, along with the company that makes them should I encounter a problem. They also are a sound company, and have been since 1850 should I have a problem, and have built a durable enough revolver to allow me to expand and enjoy the very early Prewar ones with worry of durability, or parts availability issues. I buy mostly Used as well, Not because I am looking to save the cost of new, As I have spent Far more to get a classic collectible S&W than what a new one would cost. Other's feel the very same way, or there would not be so many of them to pick and choose from, and I am sure glad of that when buying used. The new revolver's with all the space age materials do not interest me, and I have had the Air-Lite series, but swapped it off as well, due to not being able to keep the finish on them, and one of this series even had a barrel loosen, that would Not have happened to one of my Pinned old school Smith & Wesson revolver's, and as I stated Smith & Wesson is Not Perfect, but they stood behind that revolver, refinished it and repaired it FREE of charge, and it was a USED one as well which did not matter to a company that cares about their reputation. Some Like the H&R and more moderate priced revolver's, and if I offended any of them from MY Personal experience, I am sorry as my experience was not well with them and I can tell you that, Parts are a big problem to the ones out there, should you need them, and Yes, I have had issues with the moderate priced one's that forced me to part them out, and take a total loss because of this. I do not see myself as a SNOB because I own S&W revolver's, but rather view this as a Seasoned Educated Consumer purchase due to their resale, parts availability, and company repair support from Smith & Wesson is the best so far, and if I am a SNOB, I guess I will be Joined by Many Millions on the ownership of Smith & Wesson's. Paying a high price for a hand gun does not always assure quality or durability as I once bought a very expensive Walther TPH .22 Pocket Pistol. After a few years of constant firing, the trigger return spring broke. I contacted the Walther customer support center, and was disgusted when the service technician responded with "the reason this spring broke was because they were a CHEAP made Pistol". This turned me off, and I did have them send a new spring and they DID charge me $2.98 for it. I installed that spring as soon as it showed up, and someone else Now owns that cheap made Walther, that cost me in excess of $450.00 when I purchased it. It was replaced with a classic Smith & Wesson-J-frame chief, carried daily, with No Issues and if there was, I know Smith & Wesson would not only repair it FREE, but would pay the shipping to & From to do this. I also Hope that service Technician that responded in that manner is out Looking for work as well. That is why I Like Smith & Wesson, and own their products as they CARE about their customer's and repair many that were produced when Other's owned there company through the years without complaint, but still want the general public to Buy from them in the future so they go the distance to make things right, rather than slander the product or force customers to buy other revolvers. I Guess that is why they are STILL in Business since 1850 as they CARE about durable products, New or Used and I will continue to purchase them in the future. In closing, I Hope forum Member Jesse James at least looks at the durable K-22 Line, and better yet Fires one, as I know this will forever change his prior bad revolver experience as accurate as they are will Inspire a purchase and there is enough of these used K-22's out there he can make a purchase for around $300.00-$450.00 range which should not label him as a Snob as I would rather Label him as an educated consumer by what the majority owns and shoot's and I Hope my Past Experience will HELP him in his revolver purchase decision, as that is what forums should be for is to "HELP" member's asking advice or opinions from our past bad choices, or less than desirable purchases Rather than personal attacks and in my Initial response to him, I was speaking of "MY" less than desirable experience & Brief ownership of a H&R model "922" that I LOST money on the resale of it, and did not want to Launch any presonal attacks just share a factual experience on my part That in the end COST me dearly for a uneducated Purchase, of a lower priced and quality revolver. Another good idea Before spending his Hard Earned Money on any Revolver Purchase, would be to ask several other's that have a wide spectrum of revolver brand's currently made or discontinued and what they think of them and the company that made them for over all customer satisfaction of owner ship, as I have YET heard of any K-22 Owners being less than Very Pleased with the durability, fit, function, resale, and Parts availability of a revolver that has not changed all that much in it's 76 Year span, only to GROW In consumer demand and resale value from a Proven successful durable design started way back in 1930. ;) Hammerdown
 
Hand Gun Pictures using a Digital Camera

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Nice pics Hammerdown.
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Hello SNEAKS
Thank you. I started out with a much Lower Pixal Digital camera back about 7 Years ago, and Quickly learned the High the Pixal the clearer and more define the pictures come out. The Camera I use is a Fugica Fine Pix-700 which Now is very outdated, as they change designs often, but it does a good enough Job for me. I find that outside shot's seem to work best when taking pictures of guns, and over cast days will make the gun much sharper. Anyone can learn, and the digital's make it nice as the image is instant, and you can learn without it costing each and every picture, simply by erasing it and trying over again. Get Your Self one, and have a Ball, I really enjoy mine. ;) Hammerdown
 
Hammerdown,

I appreciate the length and quality of your posts, but they'd be FAR easier to read if you'd break them up into paragraphs with whitespace in between.
 
When I start Grading Threads On A Gun Forum! Boy, I Must Be BORED!

By The Way! 4 Years A UT Knoxville TN. How About Yourself?

Could I Have Typed Slower For The Forum Impared?

Glad You Need To KNOW!

THANKS FOR ASKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that your major at UT wasn't English.
 
Style, he has a certain style.

People bad mouthed Hemmingway when he started writing, same with Jack London. You know he is busy hitting the shift key's :p

Now what about this S&W10mm;
What do you think about the 10mm?

Revolver's are different that is for sure, if you are a SA shooter. Some say the revolver kicks more, some say less.

I have a revolver in 45 with clips, old 1917. My 1911a1 in 45 acp is easier as far as kick.

S&W10mm how is the kick (recoil) with the 10mm? Any thought's on the Glock, mdl. 20 in 10mm?

HQ:)
 
10mm

Harley Q:

I LOVE all 10mm's, but in saying that? They are not what they once were. When the 10mm was first introduced, the Norma 10mm round was Fun and Exciting. Kind'a like the S&W 500 Mag. or the S&W 460 of today.

No I'm not compairing them to the 10mm, except the 10mm was a HOT item when introduced and I feel way ahead of its time. But after complaints by the FBI and other LEO's, the 10mm was toned WAY down. I understand that the FBI had ordered a Bunch of 10mm's, but canceled the order after complaints from Female Officers and some Male officers that didn't like or want to deal with the recoil after testing.

Today its not much more than a Hot ,40. But I still enjoy a hard hitting round like a 10mm and a 45acp amoung others.

The GLOCK 20 is a real Favorite of mine, its Fun to shoot, but in a Heavier Gun such as a Colt Delta 1911 or S&W 1066 or 1006 they make for Great Target guns. Because the heft helps to control the Recoil. And I LOVE my S&W 610's because I can shoot 40's or 10mm's, also great choice for target shooting and even hunting if you wish. And the Cream of the Crop, a 3" 610 makes a GREAT Self Defence gun as well.

So if you ever get a chance to own a 10mm in what ever you pick, being a Auto or Revolver, JUMP ON IT! You'll be Glad You Did! They still pack a PUNCH!

I just wish MORE Manf's made 10mm's. We can only wish!
 
Well my H&R does quite well. Its a 9 shot, top break in .22LR with adjustable sights. Another nice revolver is my Taurus in .45LC/.410 with a 6.5 inch barrel. Then of course there is my 1847 Walker.


Oh and BTW I'm quite sure I can shoot a tighter group with my .22 H&R Sportsman @ 25 yards then the rest of you can with your expensive 22's.
 
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