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Shotgun roll crimp

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by wolfe, Apr 23, 2012.

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  1. wolfe

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    Going to roll crimp some slugs and buckshot rounds. More for the fact that I can Say i have done vs. anything economical.

    I bought a bpi roll crimp but I am not very good with applying even pressure with a hand drill so my roll crimp was a little "canted" to one side.

    I am not a woodworker or shop guy and don't have a drill press. I wouldn't mind having something but space limited and no need to spend a ton of cash.

    I have googled mini drill presses and there are several out there but the mini can still be over 18" tall and have big footprint.

    So my question is this. Anyone roll crimping on a small footprint drill press please let me k ow where you. Got the equipment.


    Thanks
     
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  2. Blue68f100

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    They make little clamp stands to turn hand drills into a small press. It should work for your application.
     
  3. wolfe

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    Thanks. Got a name or link for me? Dremel was the only one I found
     
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    I picked up a B&D bench-top drill press at the local flea market last year for $40. And there's Craigslist.
     
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  6. wolfe

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    Thanks for the links. I wish I had more woodworking experience and I'd buy something nice
     
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  8. wolfe

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    The crimp I bought was a BPI and I did read that article. I might need to be more patient. Tx
     
  9. Duckdog

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    I roll crimp all of my shotgun loads from 12 ga bird shot, slugs,steel shot, etc, all the way down to 410 loads. I also bought a BPI roll crimper and I can honestly say they are crap compared to the Prescision Reloading roll crimpers. I am refering to their metal ones. I use a hand drill in reverse and get perfect crimps almost every time. There was no learning curve with them. The BPI almost flattened the crimp and was not much good on slugs, whereas the PR models work on everything.
     
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    I got the HF drill press that RC linked to.

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    In that picture, I have one of the old Lyman roll crimper,(no longer made). A few sabot rounds that were crimped with that set-up.

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    I agree the BPI roll crimpers are junk. The reason is the roll pin they use instead of the 4 bumps in the lyman. Roll crimping requires a lot of heat to form the crimp. It's hard to hold the base of a shell while putting pressure on the crimper/drill. The BPI hull vise is worth it's weight in gold! The downward pressure MUST be perfectly square with the mouth of the hull. If it's not, you'll get crooked crimps.

    Oh, you should be using new cases, or longer cases with the star crimp cut off.
     
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    The PR crimper also uses 4 bumps instead of pins. Does the Lyman need to spin backwards like the PRs?
     
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    The "new and improved" BPI roll crimpers have 2 wheels in them and work much better FYI.
     
  13. wolfe

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    Well I crimped 23 today. Just don't have the knack for even downward pressure but they all looked ok
     
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    If you do not have the knack for even downward pressure by hand I would still seriously think about getting an inexpensive drill press. Look on Craigs list or a local swap and sell forum/paper for a used one. Seems like everything is for sale these days.:scrutiny:
     
  15. wolfe

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    I have been thinking. Just trying not to "fill up" my bench with thing I won't use a ton. I'll keep looking. Thx.
     
  16. wolfe

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    What is in those? Don't look like slugs to me?
     
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    I think that I paid about that for a 1/3 HP table type from Harbor Freight about 3 years ago. Just saying. Yeah the prices have gone up but not THAT much more.:scrutiny:
     
  19. wolfe

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    I saw a harbor freight for anout $10 more but was quite bigger. I was hoping the smaller footprint would still do the job. Afraid I was wrong
     
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    There used to be a smallish drill press frame that I think Sears sold. You just added your hand drill and went for it. I even see some used at times. The whole thing would fit in a shoe box without the drill attached---this might be what you seek. If I can find a linky I will edit this.:)

    Try Skil 45140 drill stand. or try googling hand drill stand
     
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  21. wolfe

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    Thanks. Now I need to figure out what to do with the one I bought. I'm sure the restock fee is outrageous. :)
     
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    I've got two or three of these type laying around in the shop...

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