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i picked up my norinco 97 (winchester 1897 clone) this weekend. i used to have a mec super speeder 400. it was a pos. I'm not going to load alot of shells for the shottie just OO buck loads for practice. will the lee load all II work ok? also does anyone have any experiance with the rcbs mini grand progressive? its more money but if its going to be 2-3 times better than the lee i'll spring for it.
 
:) Yes, the Lee Load-All II can be used to load Buckshot. You, just, have to count the balls in by hand. In an hour you should be able to make between 25 and 35 rounds without a problem. Personally, I like the Lee Load-All. Don't forget to use the sizing ring! ;)
 
Arc Angel said: "Yes, the Lee Load-All II can be used to load Buckshot."

I like my Lee Load-All for general loading but with large buckshot I can't seem to get a clean crimp.

Any suggestions Arc?
 
:) Yup, this is a common problem with the Load-All. Even with birdshot, you're not going to get an absolutely perfect crimp. You will, however, get the base sized; and that's a plus not always available on a lot of higher priced shotshell loaders. Improvise a little. Suggest you try using #’s 4 through 0. I've, also, found that the shell has to be perfectly lined up; and you need to, both, start the crimp and exert a slow heavy pressure on the handle in order to get a decent crimp while using the Load-All.

Remember that not all hulls are the same length. I don’t think I’d use red, ‘AA’ for buckshot. Try to, ‘nest’ the buckshot in, ‘layers’ as you build the shell. A buffering compound is a good safety precaution to use in order to prevent, ‘jamming’ in the choke area of the barrel. (You may, also, be able to get away with a slightly thinner wad if you use buffered shot.) Watch the overall height of the column as you add in each layer of buckshot. Remember to leave room for the crimp at the top. I haven’t checked recently; but, I think there’s something in the Lee literature about the difficulty of loading 00 buck. I’ll admit I haven’t loaded buckshot in awhile, now; but, if you’re careful and experienced with this great little shotshell loader, it CAN be done; and you WILL produce usable shells.

Here a thread from the old, ‘Firing Line’:

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-142294.html
 
Those are some good tips for me to try. I'm also going to experiment a bit with overshot cards with both star crimps and roll crimps.

Thanks.
 
I load buckshot on a Loadall. The chief problem is finding a powder that can get decent velocities and is still economical. I use the Remington gun club hulls,and vary my wads with the load I choose. In general,fast OO loads are very hard on wad bases. I get a lot of blow-by. An over shot card helps immensely with the crimp on LoadAll's, but usually adds to cost. I've made some great "reduced recoil" buck loads using Rem gun club hulls, 9 pieces of OO and a charge of green dot suitable for a 1-1/8oz load along with your given wad (usually a Remington Figure 8 or a WAA12).
Weigh your buck and figure out your total payload before you figure your load. You may be surprised how much buckshot varies in weight from the standard given in load books (alloy differences).
 
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