Should 18 Year Olds Be Allowed to CCW?

[theken206]

"if you can be trusted to wield a 2,000+ weapon with almost unlimited range, why not a 2-3 pound weapon with a few mile range?"

no doubt lol

 

[Gunnerpalace]

When the anti's use our own community against us don't say I told you so.

you some of you guys are so far off on "gangbangers"

I doubt that.

Even the Founding Fathers believed in ages of maturity

You read about the 18-21 year old then that were volunteers and fought?

your are helping the brady bunch." It is a lame attack.

No it's not it's true I am fairly certain they troll here, look at the Zumbo incident, how our community acts determines how they fight.

 

[Solo Flyer]

Quote:
If 18 is ok, why not 16, I have seen some very mature 16 year olds."

16 is the legal age in Vermont.No problems there since enacted in 1902 that I know about.

The Vermont Statutes Online
Title 13: Crimes and Criminal Procedure
Chapter 85: Weapons

§ 4008. Possession of firearms by children

A child under the age of sixteen years shall not, without the consent of his parents or guardian, have in his possession or control a pistol or revolver constructed or designed for the use of gunpowder or other explosive substance with leaden ball or shot. A child who violates a provision of this section shall be deemed a delinquent child under the provisions of chapter 55 of Title 33.

 

[theken206]

"you some of you guys are so far off on "gangbangers"

I doubt that."

basing that on my own thoughts experiances and what ive read on here

 

[CombatArmsUSAF]

I say if an 18 yr old is fighting for his country, then sure he can carry. Being a member of the uniformed services requires more maturity and discipline than what your standard 18 yr old deals with.

But they must be a valid active duty ID card holder.

 

[JKimball]

I agree with lions, it is generally going to be the more mature and responsible 18 year olds that will go through the requirements to obtain a permit.

I think about the college campus shootings we hear about and I think it is crazy that Americans are happy to send their kids off to school without effective means of protection.

 

[theken206]

"it is generally going to be the more mature and responsible 18 year olds that will go through the requirements to obtain a permit."

agreed

 

[JackBurtonJr]

But they must be a valid active duty ID card holder.

Would you like to explain to my 18 year old daughter who's working her way thru college at a restaruant in a seedy part of town just why you think she is unworthy of being able to protect herself with a gun even though she knows more about them and shooting than 90 percent of any guys.

I don't think you're going to impress her with any arguments that you can think up.

 

[Gunnerpalace]

I agree with lions, it is generally going to be the more mature and responsible 18 year olds that will go through the requirements to obtain a permit.

I agree with this /\

Not the military ID, this the standard CCW training stuff.

 

[theken206]

most likley just piss her off

 

[JackBurtonJr]

Being a member of the uniformed services requires more maturity and discipline than what your standard 18 yr old deals with.

As per post #83 are you really willing to post in public that 18-year-old Hoosiers are naturally equally ethical, moral, mature, smarter, and all around generally up to par with "members of the uniformed services"? Without the actual benefit and experience of being in the "uniformed services"?

 

[JackBurtonJr]

I don't feel like being attacked.

Why do you "feel" you were being "attacked"?

I am just stating an opinion

We all have opinions. That is what posting on threads is all about. Opinion based upon fact and evidence tend to get more respect than opinions based on unsupported emotions.

and yes I understand the point your making.

And which point was that? And if you "understand" it just how does your understanding effect your "opinion"?

 

[Guns and more]

No. I'm not sure they should be driving yet either.

 

[CombatArmsUSAF]

That's just my opinion. Like it or not.

Yes, there are some responsible 18 yr olds. But there are a heck of a lot more morons running around at that age than not.

Excuse me, for supporting the RTC at 18, but demanding that they show some form of responsibility.

 

[The_Sheriff]

Yes becuase only the responsible ones would do it. I wish I was legal

 

[CombatArmsUSAF]

Where exactly is everybody getting the idea that only responsible people will take advantage of it?

I know 26 yr olds with permits that are complete idiots.

 

[Area 52]

I thought federal law said you had to be 21 to buy a handgun. This said, I think 18 year olds should be allowed to buy a handgun and conceal carry. If you can get married at 18, you should also be allowed to protect yourself, spouse, and children if you got 'em.

 

[theken206]

"I thought federal law said you had to be 21 to buy a handgun."

nope just to purchase one from an FFL

 

[22-rimfire]

There is hard, factual evidence extending over decades with tens of thousands of 18 year olds in multiple states carrying with no harm to the community.

Show me YOUR documentation that "tens of thousands" are doing this safely.

 

[theken206]

well those states have hade CPLs for 18+ for some time now and ive never heard of much, if anything coming about over it.

I wonder how many people between the ages of 18-21 with a valid CPL have been convicted of major crimes.

 

[22-rimfire]

I grew up shooting all through High School and never did anything particularly stupid. But I never wanted to carry a handgun either or had the money for such. The truth is my parents would never have allowed it but it never came up. There just was not enough money for things like this and there was no need.

Added: Oops... the point... I doubt that I would have even considered carrying a handgun when I was 16 or 18 or even 21. It is only a recent phenomena. I didn't live in the city and we carried our guns around pretty much where ever we wanted to outdoors. I only became interested in handguns in my 20's.

 

[theken206]

your point being friend?

 

[Harve Curry]

"Should 18 Year Olds Be Allowed to CCW? .................
1 requires no permit,VT and eligible 16 year olds can carry."

That is a truly remarkable and just law. If Vermont was in the south west I'd live there.

If you are old enough to fight for your country then how can any right be with held from you?

 

[TEDDY]

carry

well I dont know whether I should post where so many kids are active.I am 84
whould you like to try your luck taking my guns away.
I grew up where many of us had pistols.the 22 rifle was the main gun but we did have many pistols.colts and smiths were out of our price range but ivers and h&R were not,at .50 and $1.00. 32 rim were .30 a box.and gun laws were few until the 1968 law.you could have cannons and 20mm finns were $100.until 1968.machine guns were available as dewats.I bought a 303 mk1*
for $22 from George Numrich in the 50s.NRA had postal matches for high school teams/church/legion/college.WR HEARST matches.
do a little reseach before spouting off,history is interesting.Mass was loaded with gun companies until the socialists destroyed them.
it cant happen then were did the 1,500,000 gun owners go in Mass.down to 240,000.:banghead:

 

[JackBurtonJr]

That's just my opinion. Like it or not.

Opiinions based upon factual evidence tend to get more respect than those based upon emotions.

Yes, there are some responsible 18 yr olds. But there are a heck of a lot more morons running around at that age than not.

In other words, you just can't seem to explain why Indiana and the other dozen states that allow ccw for 18 years olds and have no problems so you just duck the issue.

Excuse me, for supporting the RTC at 18, but demanding that they show some form of responsibility.

Well, I support the RTC for women but demand that they show some form of responsiblity. We all know how much more flighty they are than men.