Should a high end 1911 feed hollowpoints...

[MTS840]

Should a high end 1911 feed hollowpoints...

I wouldn't drop a grand on a pistol to find out that it's not as reliable as a $500 Glock.

I don't care about the history of the design or who designed it. That doesn't win gunfights. If it chokes when I need it, it may get me killed.

I expect a gun to work right out of the box as designed, with no modifications, provided I follow the instructions in the owner's manual. Simple as that.

Any gun sold to the public and marketed as a weapon for self defense should be able to feed a wide variety of self defense ammunition, in my opinion. Period.

 

[orrwdd]

Schmeky,

That is my point exactly. The reason the big slow 45 ACP was adopted by the US military was because it provided a sufficient punch to put a man down without needing high velocity.

So why go to lighter HP bullets that need more velocity to maybe function properly????

Bill

 

[soloban]

Assuming you have a good magazine, yes. They should be able to shoot JHPs.

 

[f4t9r]

Yes it should !!

 

[NWCP]

For the money some shooters spend on 1911s they should shoot anything they're fed and then some. They should also cook, clean house and do the laundry for what some smiths are getting for their product.

 

[w_houle]

If you spend enough money: All you have to do is cover the gun with powder, lead shavings, and brass shavings and it will make the bullets all by itself
Seriously? I would expect a HIGH END 1911 to reliably feed wadcutters!
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[mljdeckard]

Yes it should. That doesn't mean I won't check it first.

Here's the thing about factory guns. They are made to all be the SAME. Hand-built guns are that; custom fitted. Better worse, whatever, I lean towards consistency.

Of course I'm the one who always sneers at custom guns. I shot a Nighthawk at a rental range, because I wanted to know what a $5 milkshake tastes like. For the life of me, I have no idea what it is you got for more then three times what I paid for my Kimber.

 

[Leaky Waders]

I was reading Ed Brown's site today and he had some info concerning what kind of bullets to use. Basically...if I understood correctly, he tuned his pistols to specific bullets. The shooter should see the spent cases fly in a certain pattern. If the cases weren't flying in that pattern then the pistol would need adjusted or something.

So it seems to me, (if Mr Brown's website is correct) that people who have problems with jhp and custom 1911's, may not have a bullet geometry problem per se, but more of a velocity/recoil problem with loads lighter thatn 230 grains. I'm no expert. Maybe 1911Tuner will show up and clarify things.

 

[Gunfighter123]

Amazing to me; John Browning designed the 1911 to shoot ball ammo. A 230 FMJ slug traveling at 850 fps is a lot more reliable than a HP stuck on a feed ramp.

Yes , the fact is that the 1911 WAS INTENDED to use ball type ammo -- BUT -- if there HAD BEEN hollow points in general use at that time , Mr. Browning would have made sure his "Greatest" firearm would have worked with them.

 

[Kingofthehill]

I have Many Many MANY JHP's through my Springfield Loaded and its never had a problem. My DW has had 1 or 2 not load properly but its only attempted maybe 100? so thats not too great of a track record.

IMO they should all feed...

JOe

 

[EddieNFL]

I would expect a HIGH END 1911 to reliably feed wadcutters!

I've never tried wadcutters, but even my inexpensive models (Colts and Kimbers) will reliably feed semi-wadcutters.

 

[EddieNFL]

Poor quality control of course, which is the only reason some 1911's don't work right as well. The only reason.

I keep telling yankees not everyone in the south is dumb.

QC is Kimber's Achilles' heel. Sad, because they could be THE name in production 1911s. Unfortunately, bowing to the bottom line perpetuates the "unreliable" myth.

 

[tipoc]

The question is a bit of a set up. It implies that mid range 1911s don't feed hollowpoints. Fact is they do.

tipoc

 

[EddieNFL]

The question is a bit of a set up. It implies that mid range 1911s don't feed hollowpoints. Fact is they do.

tipoc

I agree, but the price is mid-range. Dollar figure aside, a properly built 1911 should feed anything designed for autos.

 

[tipoc]

Dollar figure aside, a properly built 1911 should feed anything designed for autos.

I agree. Properly built 1911s currently being manufactured do feed JHPs.

tipoc

 

[tipoc]

Should a Springfield XD feed hollowpoints?



tipoc

 

[Browns Fan]

Yes. ALL guns SHOULD feed whatever load in its respective caliber.

However. Having said that, reality and the cynic (spl?) within me says different.

 

[JTQ]

Should a high end Glock feed unjacketed bullets?

With absolute reliability. By high end I mean $550 range.

 

[RSVP2RIP]

I'd say we're a long way from the original Borwning designed 1911. His didn't even have a thumb saftey. The new ones are designed to feed HP ammo if it has what has been called a "Throat and Pollish", or anything similar to it. I can't think of any current factory guns that still have a round magazine follower and a barrel with a narrow feed ramp slot, save the Colt 1911 WWI remake, but I have not seen that one in person so I'm not sure. Anything that is not labled as "Target" should be able to shoot HP's. If you get a $1K bullseye gun, whay are you worried about HP's anyways?