should i trade my gun in??

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never_summer

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I bought a 9mm kimber stainless target II in january, and after waiting 6 weeks i was pretty impressed when it came it. But recently i have been shooting my .45 sig p220 and im not really set on having a 9mm gun. It seems like its just too small for the 1911 and not as substantial in my mind for sd. Im getting about the same accuracy and even thou the p220 is alot lighter im not feeling a big difference in recoil. The local gun shop has way too many 1911's to choose, but the owner is pretty set on getting my 9mm from me :D
my question is which .45 1911 should i trade it for? He already quoted me 750 cash so thats too big of a loss for me to take. The dealer has s&w, kimber, colt, sig and a few les baers (which i dont think i could do a straight trade for)
 
A friend of mine was looking for a 9mm 1911 for over a year. He has one on order from Springfield, but he waited and waited and finally found one at a gun show. From what he was saying 9mm 1911's are hard to come by. Plus 9mm is much cheaper than .45 .
 
I'd at least check out the Sig Sauer 1911's. A short time ago I found out that the top CEO left Kimber, took all the good gunsmiths with him from the Custom Shop, and are now running Sig's GSR 1911 dept.
 
I like the 9mm, but to each his own, life's too short to settle ;) As for which one...if you can swing it, go w/ the Baer :D
 
Yea i know 9mm 1911's are hard to find, i barely got in on the order for the beginning of this year. Im thinking im gonna try and swing for the baer just based on how hard my gun is to come by, and there are always people looking for one. Even though he quoted me at 750 he also told me some of the prices he gets his guns in for (wish i could get em that cheap ;) ), so basically he has some room to work with on alot of his inventory. I will be keeping my alumagrips and s&a extended magwell in the trade thou. Now about those sigs i am a bit scared to get one based on other peoples experiences.
 
never_summer said: It seems like its just too small for the 1911 and not as substantial in my mind for sd.

If you like it, and the only reason you're trading it is because you think its not adequate for self defense, have you considered getting a barrel for 38 Super, or 9x23? Those calibers are a bit more powerful than 9mm, and you can have the barrel fitted for about the same money you're gonna loose in that trade.

Its not much work at all to get one of those calibers set up. And, you'll still have the cheap 9mm for practice.
 
Unless you're in a money crunch I would keep it for plinking and playing a gun is a gun even a 22 rimfire .

9mm ammo is cheap to shoot even fairly decent factory defense ammo compared to 45 stuff .

Don't know if you are married or have kids but a 9mm would be a good defense load for a small women or a teen/preteen when you get to that point in life .
 
trading a gun at a store is no good. they will shaft you everytime. ive got the best prices when i walk around at gun shows telling people i have a gun for sale.
 
If you think 9mm is insufficient for self-defense the best suggestion I have is to stop listening to tales of the .45 spinning Nazis around 3 times and knocking them back the width of Belgium.In actual shootings,9mm and .45 tend to do the exact same thing to people.It doesn't make many people feel better about shooting at gelatin or sheet metal and doesn't make for good internet flame wars but true is true.

That said,if you don't want the gun then simply sell it or find someone willing to trade something you'd rather have.Losing your hat in gun store trade-ins is a sad fact of life that's not made any better when you go back in a day later and you see your gun with a tag for $200 more than they gave you for trade.
 
I absolutely agree with a lot of points here. There is nothing wrong with a 9mm for SD. If it makes a hole in the BG that didn't exist before, then it is good enough for me. It's not the size of the bullet that stops them, it's the placement.
 
outofbattery, Damien45, +1 for the 9. I can't believe you wan to ditch the 9mm 1911! I sold my SA loaded 9mm on friday (ONLY so I could afford a AR). I thought I was going to cry.:( It was perfect for the range, competition, and yes, HD and SD. I could nail a BG at 20 yards (at the range at least) and get a quick follow up too. Before anyone starts, I know you can't go shooting people at 20 yards and call it self defense but if you can do it at the range then MAYBE you can do it at 7 yards if the time ever came. And there's a very informative chart somewhere in the general handgun sub forum (hungry, no time to search, must...keep...typing) that has numerous charts that shows that a .45 has very little benefit when applied to center body mass. .100" doesn't make all that much difference when it comes to a hole in your torso. To each his own! :) I have no doubt that my 22 mag mini revo will stop a threat point blank (about the only time I can hit anything with it.) I digress, this wasn't another 9mm vs .45 thread????
Now that's out of my system (sorry) I'd trade it for a comparable .45 or maybe just a crapload of .45 ammo for the sig... Or what about a reloading system? ASsuming you don't have one already. Then you can afford to shoot the sig till it falls apart. Good luck with that...
trading a gun at a store is no good. they will shaft you everytime. ive got the best prices when i walk around at gun shows telling people i have a gun for sale.
My experience has been completely opposite (except for when the guy gave me a $500 trade in value on the AR :cuss: ). I always get complete crap offers at shows... Maybe it's just my area.

Well the thread's title asks the question, here's my answer. No.
 
Do what you want too do, but don't take a beating~!

If your dealer keeps on you 'bout selling (or trading) your gun, chances
are he already has a market for your gun. Ask yourself this, if MY gun
is worth that to him, then what is it worth too me? Most dealers are
only going to allow you 60% of retail on a trade, or 50% for a cash
sale. So, think wise before you act too fast~! :scrutiny: ;)
 
Do not sell just so you don't have it, if that makes any sense (ie if you don't need the cash). It sounds like you just want to be free of 9mm; but preferences, tend to phase in and out over time (as you've already discovered).

You'll cycle back around to wanting to shoot your Kimber again, at which point you'll regret not having it. Put it away and just "pretend" you don't own any 9's.
 
Don't sell your guns! You lose money, and for what? You will end up missing it, because you do like it. It's a 1911, a 9mm (which is cheap to shoot), and well, even if it is a Kimber, it's still a 1911. :evil:

Seriously, I suggest keep it and save your money toward whatever else you may want to purchase.
 
Clean the 9mm and put it in the back of your safe. Your wants/needs will come back around in time.

Trust me on this. Been there done that, may times over. Never sell your guns, and trading them in, will result in the worst dollar loss you will ever suffer.

Good Luck...

Joe
 
I don't understand a 9mm 1911. I guess it's because I had one and soon came to the conclusion that it should be a .45...

Not much on Kimbers myself, either...
 
A short time ago I found out that the top CEO left Kimber, took all the good gunsmiths with him from the Custom Shop, and are now running Sig's GSR 1911 dept.

Hey guys. Anything to this?

Clean the 9mm and put it in the back of your safe. Your wants/needs will come back around in time.

Trust me on this

Excellent advise.

I don't understand a 9mm 1911.

That was me for a long time. Now it seems like an outstanding idea. I love my EMP in 9mm. It's just so little. I'd like a 5" gun for the range.:)
 
9mm 1911's are my favorite guns. Someone would have to give me something like a million bucks:) to part with mine.
 
eh ive been giving some thought to it, and im thinking you guys are right. Ive always been one not to argue about calibers, and instead buy more guns :evil:
So i think im just gonna shoot the 220 in .45 for now, and then buy another 1911 in .45 :cool:

Only problem i have with the sig is the slide doesnt lock back on the last round everytime. I keep disengaging the damn slide release because its right where my thumb safety is suppose to be :cuss:
 
I love mine, too.

They come in 38 Super, 10mm, and other calibers, too. A 1911 may be identified with the 45 ACP, but its certainly not limited to it.

The allure of the 9mm makes it economical, and doesn't give the shooter recoil fatigue as quickly in a 1000 round training class. The 38 Super/9mm cartridge also has less of a recoil impulse and can be shot quicker with more control.
 
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9mm 1911's are my favorite guns. Someone would have to give me something like a million bucks to part with mine.
That's exactly what I started out askng for mine. :) I really think that it is a WONDERFUL platform for people that like to shoot. a lot. and hit the target. a lot. enough about the 9mm 1911's validity as a weapon. I think our work here is done. You should definately get a .45 to completment the 9. And a 10mm. and a 38 super. and a 9x23. :cool:
 
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