SIG Mosquito - what a POS!!!

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gvass

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hi,
yesterday I tested the new SIG .22 LR Mosquito.

Oh, this is the biggest POS I've shot in this year!


NEGATIVE SIDE:- zinc slide with steel insert
- zinc inner frame with polymer outer frame
- awful signs of MIM
- zinc magazine
- zinc firing pin safety block
- fixed, plastic sights
- hard DA
- creepy SA
- the slide could fly from the frame when you are firing - constructional failure!
- "childproof" lock, mag. safety, slide mounted safety - just for BATFE import points:-((
- ALL tested ammo (Lapua Signum, Scoremaster, RWS Target Rifle, Fiocchi V350, Remington Thunderbolt, Vostok) produced FTFs and FTEs for every 2-3 shots. If no FTF or FTE, there were misfires:-(((((((((((


POSITIVE SIDE:- good grip
- looks good on a PHOTO

This junk under SIG Sauer name??? Scandal!
 
I am glad I seen this post. I was about to look for one. Thanks for saving me some trouble.
 
At least it had a good grip !! ...People still try to get something "good but cheap", the world isn't like that .If you want something good it's going to cost!
 
Dang.. I was looking at getting one to give my p22 a rest...

I think I may still get one sometime give it the same treatment after maybe a year or so. I know there was problems from the factory right when the p22 first came out... so maybe sig will work problems out fix them and they will become a decent pistol. If not I may just get a mkII.

The look beautiful though. I heard they were almost clones of a p22 fixed barrel etc..
 
They could build them like SIG's are supposed to be - or at least expected to be.

But then they'd cost about the same as a regular model ...

And everyone would say, "it's just a little .22, and that's way too expensive ..."

Sorry, but there is no such thing as a free lunch. :rolleyes:

But hopefully they will get the bugs worked out.
 
"so maybe sig will work problems out fix them and they will become a decent pistol. If not I may just get a mkII.
"

I am not sure, that SIG actually manufactures them. Maybe some outsourced manufacturer? Maybe Umarex is the real maker?

If it would be functional it would be a good plinker. BUT it is also constructionally unsafe, at least, the firing pin block MUST be made of steel.

The take-down lever must be secured against rotating while firing. The real centerfire SIG Sauer's take down lever is moveable only when the slide is locked back.

And this danned thing is 400 USD here...
 
"And everyone would say, "it's just a little .22, and that's way too expensive ..."

Sorry, but there is no such thing as a free lunch."

There is no free lunch, but the Ruger Mark III (I prefer Mark II) is not more expensive, and known as reliable and made of steel.

This time: BUY AMERICAN:))
 
all due respect to the original poster, would you guys dismiss a gun because of a forum post without having looked at one yourself? If that were so, no one would buy a 1911 (unreliable), Sig (frames break), Beretta (locking block), HK (unergonomic), Glock (blow up).....
 
"would you guys dismiss a gun because of a forum post without having looked at one yourself? "

The original post was my experience with one random sample of the modell.

It is possible that the next one will be reliable as hell.

But there are facts about the used materials and constuction errors. There is something wrong with a pistol where the slide can go off when you shoot it:-(((
 
Yep, buy a Ruger MkII or Buckmark if you want a good 22 auto for plinking. The others are not worth it.

I too handled one in the store and thought it felt cheap for a SIG product. Not nearly as well constructed as my old 220.....nowhere close. I have not shot one but it sure felt chaep in the hands.

I was expecting a scaled down 226...not even close.

pass..

-Brickboy240
 
Whether or not the bad experience was a fluke or not, I appreciate the heads up. I too was sniffing around and now I will check out a range gun at the local indoor before I jump. Thanks.
 
Yes, both the Ruger and Buckmark are optional choices. My only objection to both is that as a field gun (as opposed to a target pistol) you shouldn't carry the chamber loaded. The hammer is cocked, there is no way to lower it, and so far as the Ruger's concerned there isn't a half-cock on the hammer face as there is with the 1911 style pistols to catch the hammer if it falls.

As for cost - it will be interesting to see how the effective street prices work out for these three guns.
 
"My only objection to both is that as a field gun (as opposed to a target pistol) you shouldn't carry the chamber loaded. "

CZ75 Kadet?
 
Can you elaborate on how this slide is able to fly off during firing?
 
Looked at one my dealer had and could have bought it on the spot. I looked it over for quite some time and decided against it. My conclusion was to let others be the ones who :cuss: . I'll get one after the kinks are worked out. Or not at all. With all their flaws, I'll currently stick with my Ruger SSS, Trailside, and yes, even my Neos! :D
 
"Can you elaborate on how this slide is able to fly off during firing?"

Yep. When you flip (rotate) the take-down lever in the front position, there is a zinc block under the barrel, which can move backwards.

Then the slide could move more backwards to lift up from the frame rails, then slide forward under the recoil spring power to get it off from the barrel.

The problem is, that, the take-down lever could be rotated accidentaly in any slide position, even when you actually shoot the gun!
 
gvass:

Yup, as well as a number of other center-fire pistols with .22 conversion units. But now we are getting expensive again. Unfortunately the best solution isn't always the least expensive one.

My solution with single-action/enclosed hammer .22 pistols is to carry them with the magazine loaded and chamber empty, which works fine in a field-carry environment. If for some reason I want a fast first-shot option (which is unlikely under the circumstances) I carry a double-action .22 revolver. (Which again isn't an inexpensive solution, although one can come close with some Taurus models).

My original point was to explain that gunmakers have a hard time these days coming up with guns that meet the quality expectations of potential customers, at a price they are willing to pay. SIG may, or may not have made a mistake in marketing a model that they're usual buyers might not find acceptable. I hope that in time they will be able to work out the bugs (if they are widespread) but we will have to wait and see. I would think that they would have extensively tested prototypes before putting something on the market. As an additional issue, if this pistol is made in Germany the import duties alone will inflate the price.

The Old Fuff is in a unique position of being able to see this overall picture from both a buyers' and manufacturers' point of view. So I understand were both are coming from. Unfortunately I don't think there are any easy answers in today's manufacturing environment.
 
Kadet

The CZ Kadet is a real gun, unlike the Kimber 1911 .22 or the Mosquito. It's the same size, construction, and weight as the standard CZ's, and it operates the same way. The trigger isn't as crisp as the Ruger's, but it ain't bad, and accuracy is usually outstanding. Mine has been more reliable than my Ruger Mark II's, and the mag release is in the right place.

A fun gun.
 
I'll have to second or third the CZ Kadet Kit. I have one for my 75B and it practically lives on it. Its nice to have a full size, high quality .22 for practice and fun. Its as accuate as my Ruger Mk II 512 (5 1/2 in. bull barrel).
 
I am not sure, that SIG actually manufactures them. Maybe some outsourced manufacturer? Maybe Umarex is the real maker?
From the OP's description of the pistol, it sounds like it was manufactured under license by Hi-Point...


DL
 
Sorry to hear about your problems. Maybe it needs a break in to feed reliably?
 
George, the Beretta 87 is a fine pistol, very reliable and quite accurate. Also, the Marvel converson for the 1911 is excellent.

When I saw the new Sig, I was very disappointed. Seeing the MSRP, I had a suspicion it would be a non purchase. Price point pistols, to compete with the Walther P22 I suppose. Seems to me they could offer a conversion kit that would sell by the thousands for a similar price.

They do offer a steel framed Trailside in Germany, but no US importation is scheduled to my knowledge.
 
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