Sig P220 Equinox

[RancidSumo]

I have been looking into a new pistol and I think that the Sig P220 would be a good choice. My question is, does anyone have a pic of their 220 Equinox because sometimes I see a gun that I really like on the web or in a magazine and then I see it in the store and it is ugly. Since I would have to special order this gun to get it, I would like to see what it actually looks like before I order it. Also, how durable is the finish and any reason why not to buy a Sig and go with a different gun?

 

[RancidSumo]

Also, does the Sig have a trigger like the Taurus 24/7 PRO where it pulls back a lot very losely and then has a crisp pull at the end. I don't like that kind of trigger and prefer the trigger on a 1911. If it does have the first kind of trigger, will getting the P220 SAO make it more like a 1911 with a better trigger pull?

 

[chris in va]

Well, first off I can't see spending so much money on a gun that basically hasn't changed in decades. I paid $450 for a used 220 that is absolutely flawless in operation, which to me is more beautiful than any goofy finish being put on guns lately.

As for the trigger, it's your typical DA/SA pull. SA is very crisp with zero creep. If you like a 1911 trigger pull, why not just get a 1911?

 

[RancidSumo]

Anyone with usefull information?

 

[R&J]

I considered a P229 Equinox seriously, back in 2006. The 229 is the same series in .40 S&W.

The sight set up is brilliant. In daylight it offers a Dawson Precision-like front fiber optic which really "pops" in the notch of black rear sight. In the dark it presents the tarditional 3-dot tritium, illuminated sight picture. It does this by combining a front TFO, with the standard Sig rear night sight.

The P229 was a bit blocky, which suited me fine, as I like Glocks--it felt good in my hands.

It looked exactly like the attached, which is to say, sexy!

But alas, when I asked the armorer what I could do with it, that I couldn't do with a Glock, he said, "Nothing. But you'll look cooler doing it!"

Given the asking price, I passed on it.

--Ray

 

[au1776]

I just bought a 229 Equinox, and I think it looks very good. I have the standard Sig grips instead of the wood equinox ones, and I actually think I might like it better. Regardless though, the gun looks great, and from what I've seen of 220 equinox's, they look pretty similar. It is an attractive gun, and I actually like it better in person than in pictures. I was worried it would look too gimicky/showy, but it really doesn't. Go look for one on gunbroker that has pictures taken by the seller. They'll give you a much better sense of what the actual gun looks like.

 

[PCRCCW]

Id have to say as far as two tone guns go...this isnt over done or tacky! I love the Kimber and Springfield 1911's like this.......Stainless on black is one of my favorites.....

Id say get it if you want it........the great thing is if you end up not liking it, you can sell it with very little loss!

Shoot well and god bless

 

[CPshooter]

I think a black trigger on those Equinox Sigs would make them look 10x better. It ALMOST looks cheesy because theres so many little stainless parts everywhere trying to coordinate w/ eachother. Basically overdone. If the trigger was black it would add juuust enough black in the right area. That's my 2 cents anyways.

Also, I think the P229 Equinox looks better than the 226 or 220. Looks way classy with the single brushed stainless stripe down the side of it. Whoever said they put the factory polymer/plastic grips back on there, good call. I don't like the girth of Sig's wooden grips. A P229 Equinox w/ CTL grips or just the stock plastic grips, AND a black trigger would be perfect. I still don't know how I feel about the TFO front sight though. I checked one out in person, and the way you could see the gap running underneath the whole front sight made me nervous. I question the durability.

 

[R12GS]

Well, first off I can't see spending so much money on a gun that basically hasn't changed in decades.

Well then you must not be a 1911 fan either. I say go for it. The 220 is a proven platform. It will last you a lifetime, and if you like the Equinox finish, get one.

 

[R&J]

"I still don't know how I feel about the TFO front sight though. I checked one out in person, and the way you could see the gap running underneath the whole front sight made me nervous. I question the durability."

*****

It's true; a simple post at the front attaches that long front sight. Enough leverage at the rear could certainly break it!

Sig Sauer offers a limited lifetime warranty on their new guns to the original owner. Their website states that this does not include ordinary wear and tear of parts. Whether this covers the TFO sights or not, I don't know.

On their own, TruGlo TFO sights have one of the worst warranties in the industry--90-Days on anything but the tritium lamps. The lamps are made by Trijicon and are covered for ten years.

Owners of TFOs have complained about the following:

. Poor Fit
. Poor Finish
. Poor Workmanship
. Fiber Optic Rods Falling Out
. Tritium Lamp Failure

I have seen photos of some pretty ratty looking TFO sights!

Even so, most people that have them, sing the praises of their TFOs! They are that unique! They patch them up, or order another pair...

Apparently, the company (TruGlo) is nice to work with.

I saw no flaw on the TFO sight atop that P229 Equinox I handled. The shop let me take the gun into the bathroom, so that I might see the night sight picture. Again, I was impressed! The sight picture day and night was great!

As for Sig Sauer putting a POS sight on one of their new babies, I don't see that happening. I'm thinking they'll replace it, and for that price, they'd better!

--Ray

 

[TNT.45]

Heres mine with the wood grips. This Sig shots incredible. I highly recommend it.

 

[jonboynumba1]

My expirience with sig as a company has been less than stellar. You have to guilt them into selling you a 5 cent spring that should be free (OK they did send me the last one free actually) First they say there is some (insert insane amount) min. order for parts. Then you tell them "look...I'm not a sig dealer...and this is why! GLOCK would already have the part in the mail free...should I tell my LEO customer who is standing right here you won't send me a 5 cent spring for his Sig Firearm? I could offer to take it in trade for a glock so he can get some service next time...heck maybe the whole department will just go glock" -Guy finally says "well...I guess I can just send yout he spring" -it's like pulling teeth! OK it was actually a guys backup gun (sig 230 or 232) people always lose that little slide catch spring. But I've been through it EVERY time I need one. That is alsdo after the various 3-4 holds to get to a person to speak to about this. I actually think S&W has better service than Sig...and that is not much of a compliment either way.

So without addressing the gun let me say that is a good reason not to buy a sig. That and several of the TVA guys we did transfers for on all their new sigs (dep. issued) related stories of failures if it was not kept nice and clean all the time. That is of course hearsay...lord knows many LEO's are gifted at not servicing or inproperly servicing their firearms. Maybe it's better if you are an actual Sig dealer. But silly me...I thihnk a company should by default stand behind their products and customers. That has not been my expirience with them...and ultimately why I didn't buy the 229R I nearly bought last year (great shooter) Mags are also a but high but I could live with that.

Glock and springfield armory seem to have the best customer service I've ever recieved....especially GLOCK. I really think it's their service and support as much as the guns that has gotten them where they are today as a company. I've NEVER had a problem with them that they didn't make me happy by the end of the phone call. They are the Honda of handgun companies I guess-LOL And I don't even carry one right now so that is not just a GLOCK deciple spurting "tennifer love". SA has also done realy well by me as has NAA (even though I don't personally own any of their stuff) You send them a mini revolver back you usually get a new one with the same serial number back -and on time to! I think companies under-estimate how long customer and dealers hold grudges when you don't take good care of them...I've always kinda wanted a 220 myself...but I just don't feel good about the company...which is why I don't own one...and probably won't.

 

[Rexster]

Collectorsfirearms.com has some good photos of an Equinox in their inventory. Their search function is easy to use.

 

[RancidSumo]

Any info on the trigger? I don't want a trigger like the one on my 24/7.

 

[RancidSumo]

Ok, I was looking in another thread and saw some stuff on the trigger. It looks like when it is in SA it automatically pulls the trigger back a little bit from the DA posistion. Is that right because if it is then it would fix the problem I have with the 24/7 where you have to pull the trigger back farther then nessecary for SA because the double action requires a longer trigger pull?

 

[SwampWolf]

Regarding the trigger pull, the 220 is decidedly not the same as the 24/7. There's probably a "learning curve" in terms of adjusting to the 24/7's long, stacking pull but I don't think I'd ever get used to it (or even want to get used to it). The 220, on the other hand, is about like most other traditional d/as; better than most in my estimation. A fairly (but not 24/7 level) long, da revolver-like first pull, transitioning to a fairly short, clean single action pull on all subsequent shots. If what you want is a 1911 type pull, you'll just about have to get a 1911. The 220 s/a model comes pretty close though.