SIG P220C (Carry) - picture heavy

[FJC]

I picked up one of these a couple weeks ago - it's basically a SIG P220 with a shorter slide, ala the "Commander" of the P220 style. Mine has the DAK trigger, SIG's lighter-weight DAO (they are available in traditional DA/SA).

I have about 400 rounds through it so far, not a single issue yet.

 

[mmike87]

Nice looking gun. Glad to see these are starting to hit the streets in greater numbers now.

 

[Devonai]

Gorgeous. It looks almost exactly like the P225. I'll have to do a size comparison.

 

[Devonai]

P225 (info from Remtek's website):

Length: 7.1"

Height: 5.2"

Barrel: 3.9"

Width: 1.3"

P220C (info from Sig's website):

Length: 7.1"

Height: 5.5"

Barrel: 3.9"

Width: 1.5"


Very, very nice!

 

[Freddymac]

it is very nice, but...

call my crazy, but I dont like rails on my carry gun. For my HD gun, yes; Rails are good.

 

[SpookyPistolero]

I really like that, I've never seen that model. The shorter slide does it good aesthetically.

How far forward is the trigger reset with the DAK setup?

 

[FJC]

The DAK trigger is very nice, but very different.

In normal carry mode, the hammer is partially cocked, which is shown in the pictures above. Trigger pull is long, but smooth and around 7lbs (on the P226/P229 it's about 6.5lbs, they find more leverage in those guns).

Once fired, about half-way through the trigger return, it'll reset. THAT reset will be around 1-1.5lbs heavier if you use it (around 8.5lbs on my pistol). Or, you can let the trigger reset to the full forward position, then you're back to 7lbs.

If you try it while dry firing, you'll think, "This is terrible, I'm going to have a harder pull on my fast followup shots." In reality, though, I don't even notice that extra weight when firing fast.

If you have a misfire, you can immediately pull the trigger again, even though the hammer isn't partially cocked - you just get the 8.5lb pull instead of the 7lb pull.

Anyway, typing it up makes it all sound much more complicated and confusing than it really is. I finally rented a DAK at the range and really liked it. I now own two; the one shown above, and this P239SAS in .40SW:

 

[Alan Fud]

The DAKs, especially the SASs, are really nice guns

 

[SpookyPistolero]

No, your explanation was very clear indeed. Thanks much. It does sound like it would take some getting used to, but what new pistol doesn't.

Those SAS's look like fun, too. Thats a smooth dehorning they've done.

 

[arizona]

Great looking pistols.

How is the recoil out of the shorter barrel.

I thought Sig was going to make the 220 Carry in a single action version.

 

[FJC]

I haven't noticed the recoil as being any different than that of my full-sized alloy-framed P220.

I haven't heard of plans for a SAO P220C, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do. After all, this uses what is generally (see note below) a standard P220 frame; so any P220 trigger variant should be easily done in this shorter-slide version.

**Note - myself and a very knowledgable SIG fan over on Sigforum.com have discovered that at least my new P220C came with a wider trigger than is normal on the P220 series. In fact, it seems to be the same width trigger that is used on the P229/P226 line. This in turn required a larger hole in the frame to accomodate the wider trigger. We're theorizing that SIG is standardizing on that one trigger style, so that they can reduce the number of stocked parts.

 

[Frohickey]

Nice pistol.

But I don't see the impetus for 'pulling the trigger again' after a misfire. Wouldn't it be better to rack the slide and remove the malfunctioning cartridge, and feed in a fresh one?

 

[FJC]

In a combat situation, sure. Though if you're firing as fast as possible, you might just do that second strike before you realized it misfired.

At the range, though, I'm going to hit it again in case it was a light strike. Or, I'm going to wait a good 30 seconds before I eject it. I've seen a couple hangfires in my decades of shooting, I'm not so quick to just pop out a misfired round until I'm sure it's not going to go off.

 

[Devonai]

I haven't heard of plans for a SAO P220C, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do. After all, this uses what is generally (see note below) a standard P220 frame; so any P220 trigger variant should be easily done in this shorter-slide version.

There you go:

http://www.sigarms.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=37&productid=139

 

[ravencon]

call my crazy, but I dont like rails on my carry gun. For my HD gun, yes; Rails are good.

Nope. I won't call you crazy because I agree with you. Rails on HD gun? Yes.
Rails on a concealed carry gun? No.

 

[Frohickey]

In a combat situation, sure. Though if you're firing as fast as possible, you might just do that second strike before you realized it misfired.

At the range, though, I'm going to hit it again in case it was a light strike. Or, I'm going to wait a good 30 seconds before I eject it. I've seen a couple hangfires in my decades of shooting, I'm not so quick to just pop out a misfired round until I'm sure it's not going to go off.

Good point.

 

[rtl]

Just a comment on the pics in this thread - makes you feel all warm and fuzzy, doesn't it?