SIG P2022?

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Does anyone have any opinion on the Sig Sauer SP2022 9x19mm NATO Luger Parabellum service pistol?

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From what I understand, the French use them a lot for their Gendarmerie. I love the Sig P226 but they are expensive and kind of heavy. This gun has the same control layout and DA/SA yet is lighter due to the polymer frame and is less expensive.

Primary role would be home defense nightstand pistol with a light attached. I currently use a Makarov PM but desire to replace it with a more effective option. I like DA/SA as the double action pull seems safer to me than a striker gun yet doesn’t require one to remember to snick a safety. I have a lot of experience with the P220 series but sold mine last year and have missed SIG since.

Thoughts?
 
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They have a very good reputation for both reliable function and good triggers. I considered one for some time, as I also was interested in a polymer DA/SA pistol.

I don't care for the slightly short front strap (I didn't want to make the effort to avoid finger pinch on reloads), and the loaded chamber indicator lever. These are admittedly minor gripes, and understand most folks wouldn't be bothered by these.

I ended up with a Beretta PX4. It gave me the full size grip, and while it seems most folks on the forum don't like the Beretta's slide mounted safety, I have many years of experience with S&W's versions so it isn't an issue for me.

If you have SIG is experience, you'll probably like the gun.
 
The SP2022 is an excellent full-size pistol and a great bargain compared to the prices of SIG's classic P-series guns.

The SIG-Pro SP2340/SP2009 pistols were introduced in 1999 and were intended to be SIG's premium entry in the polymer field, with original pricing similar to the P226/P229 pistols. SIG fans at the time generally rejected the polymer guns and the SIG-Pro series was actually discontinued in the US after a few years. Luckily, the French government was more receptive to the design and signed the largest single pistol contract (to that time) in 2002 to buy a quarter of a million of the guns. The model was renamed the SP2022 because the French required minor design changes and the support term of the contract was for 20 years, through 2022.

After supplying the French, contract overruns were sold in the US for blowout prices. I bought my first SIG-Pro, an SPC2009, when they were discontinued in the US and my second pistol, an SP2022, from the overrun stock. Each pistol cost less than $400. The low prices and superb quality of the guns built a following for the design. SIG has allowed the SP2022 to languish while milking profits from a design whose R&D costs were recovered long ago.

Grips come in two styles and three sizes. Early grips marked "sigpro" were available in small, medium, and hard-to-find large sizes. Later grips marked "sigsauer" had a more aggressive texture, but were only available in small and medium sizes.

Frames were made in Switzerland (with a proprietary rail), Germany and the US. A few years ago some long-forgotten early Swiss frames were mated with SP2022 uppers and sold in the US.

I and many others found the triggers on the SIG-Pro guns to be better than those on contemporary classic P-series pistols - at least until the SRT triggers became available.

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I happened to shoot a few times with the SP2022. In my opinion it is an excellent service pistol with a firing feeling not very different from that of the SIG-Sauer P Series also due to the weight of the SP2022 which is comparable to that of the alloy frame pistols.
Size is between the P229 and the P226.
Especially with the full magazine the SP2022 shoots very soft.
Accuracy, in my experience, is lower than that of the P Series.
The ergonomics are inferior to that of other particularly comfortable polymer guns but is still in line with that of the P Series.
With the thumbs forward grip it is practically impossible for the slide to remain open at the last shot due to the particularly long hold open. In my opinion, the thumb over thumb grip is more suitable with this gun.
The DA trigger is very smooth and is better than that of the P Series. SA is also good.
The grip serrations on the slide are superb.
Ultimately it's a great DA / SA polymer gun.
 
Yes, I have had one for many years. One of my favorite guns. It sits on my bedside table with a Streamlight:)
Back when I was into the Sigs
All bought slight used.
The night sights a very dim, need new ones but Sig sights are really hard to remove with out a sight tool.

Kind like my old FNP 9mm. DA/SA with decocker,

I like hammer fired guns.,
 
My take is that it’s essentially a cost effective 226 with polymer frame. I’ve handled and shot several. Quality pistol, and reliable in my limited experience.
 
Given the opportunity and a good price, I'd buy one.
My only hesitation would be how they don't quite fit the curve of my palm "right." But, that may be P-220 bias on my part.
Nothing wrong with how they run, from my experience.
If they cut one for a Romeo Zero, or offered a factory installed RZ, that would like push the desirability up for me.
YMMV
 
It's a very practical and more than adequate budget SIG.
This is EXACTLY what I do with mine:
JCooperfan1911 said:
Primary role would be home defense nightstand pistol with a light attached.
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I have both, and I entirely disagree. Each platform has its pros and cons.
.455_Hunter said:
Definitely a better platform than the P320 abomination.
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CapnMac said:
Given the opportunity and a good price, I'd buy one.
My only hesitation would be how they don't quite fit the curve of my palm "right." But, that may be P-220 bias on my part.
Nothing wrong with how they run, from my experience.
If they cut one for a Romeo Zero, or offered a factory installed RZ, that would like push the desirability up for me.
YMMV
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I really loved my P220s. But, .45s became high and the gun was always quite snappy.

I know there’s little market for it but I’d love to see sig reintroduce the 9mm P220 with American mag release. Make it just like the P220 Nitron in .45 but accepting 9 or 10 round mags and chambered for 9x19mm ammo. Maybe make the grip slimmer to go back to the smaller cartridge.
 
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I really loved my P220s. But, .45s became high and the gun was always quite snappy.

I know there’s little market for it but I’d love to see sig reintroduce the 9mm P220 with American mag release. Make it just like the P220 Nitron in .45 but accepting 9 or 10 round mags and chambered for 9x19mm ammo. Maybe make the grip slimmer to go back to the smaller cartridge.
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Not a bad idea or, in the same vein, bring back the actual classic P225. Short of the 220 I haven’t had a Sig fit my hand any better (though the Legions come close) than that P6/225. I kinda miss the one I had on occasion
 
JCooperfan1911 said:
I know there’s little market for it but I’d love to see sig reintroduce the 9mm P220 with American mag release. Make it just like the P220
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Same wavelength--but I'd want a not-forked-up P210.
The original Swiss ones are slim and elegant, and a "just right" sort of weight.
Ok, they are not 10-12 round super-carry, but, that's not what they were meant for, anyway

And, for a 10-12 round super-carry, the P2022 kind of fits the bill. I just want it to have a different backstrap and a Romeo sight on it [:)]
My 2¢, spend it well.
 
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Same wavelength--but I'd want a not-forked-up P210.
The original Swiss ones are slim and elegant, and a "just right" sort of weight.
Ok, they are not 10-12 round super-carry, but, that's not what they were meant for, anyway

And, for a 10-12 round super-carry, the P2022 kind of fits the bill. I just want it to have a different backstrap and a Romeo sight on it [:)]
My 2¢, spend it well.
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I agree, Captain.

I do not like what SIG USA has done to the P210 series and would love to see them actually do it right, and by right, I mean a true reintroduction of the classic military models. I’d snap one in a second.
 
I own a SP2022 in 9mm and it's older cousin the SP2340. Both are uber reliable DA/SA pistols with very smooth triggers. I'm not getting rid of either one anytime soon.
 
Ya, like many others I'm sure, I was surprised to find these are still available new thanks to their sudden media exposure....

IIRC, they use proprietary magazines which are $$ and kinda hard to get- at least that was the case last time I looked into maybe getting one.
 
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I wish I had bought one when they were cheap. I wanna say they were 399 for a while. I was worried the mags would be hard to find. They were supposed to hold up to 20 years of service. I have never had a sig. I will need to remedy it one day.
 
NIGHTLORD40K said:
Ya, like many others I'm sure, I was surprised to find these are still available new thanks to their sudden media exposure....

IIRC, they use proprietary magazines which are $$ and kinda hard to get- at least that was the case last time I looked into maybe getting one.
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What sudden media exposure are you referencing?
 
gc70 said:
The SP2022 is an excellent full-size pistol and a great bargain compared to the prices of SIG's classic P-series guns.

The SIG-Pro SP2340/SP2009 pistols were introduced in 1999 and were intended to be SIG's premium entry in the polymer field, with original pricing similar to the P226/P229 pistols. SIG fans at the time generally rejected the polymer guns and the SIG-Pro series was actually discontinued in the US after a few years. Luckily, the French government was more receptive to the design and signed the largest single pistol contract (to that time) in 2002 to buy a quarter of a million of the guns. The model was renamed the SP2022 because the French required minor design changes and the support term of the contract was for 20 years, through 2022.

After supplying the French, contract overruns were sold in the US for blowout prices. I bought my first SIG-Pro, an SPC2009, when they were discontinued in the US and my second pistol, an SP2022, from the overrun stock. Each pistol cost less than $400. The low prices and superb quality of the guns built a following for the design. SIG has allowed the SP2022 to languish while milking profits from a design whose R&D costs were recovered long ago.

Grips come in two styles and three sizes. Early grips marked "sigpro" were available in small, medium, and hard-to-find large sizes. Later grips marked "sigsauer" had a more aggressive texture, but were only available in small and medium sizes.

Frames were made in Switzerland (with a proprietary rail), Germany and the US. A few years ago some long-forgotten early Swiss frames were mated with SP2022 uppers and sold in the US.

I and many others found the triggers on the SIG-Pro guns to be better than those on contemporary classic P-series pistols - at least until the SRT triggers became available.

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Huh, just noticed they made both internal and external extractor versions. Learned something new today! :)
 
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