Sig Sauer

[JR47]

Mim parts have several levels of reliability, based on how they are manufactured. Prior to their use, many of the same parts were cast, not forged and machined, anyway.

FYI, I was active in the shooting sports 30 years ago, even 50 years ago. Back in the 1970's everyone was bemoaning the "terrible QC" of the S&W products. Yet, today, these are the "go to" guns the latest crop of "S&W is terrible" posters refer to. Colt was supposedly in the same boat in the late 70s and early 80s.

Sig will still produce guns capable of extensive use. The fact that they use MIM parts rarely affects that goal. However, there's hope for all of the nay-sayers, as there is a new technology supposed to replace MIM. After that is established, they can "forgive" the MIM parts, and begin recommending those guns as "better than" the ones with the new technology parts.

One persons opinion, no matter how often repeated, remains one persons opinion. In this entire thread, there would seem to be very few factual accounts of problems, but lots of "supposed" problems. Pretty typical of the flow here.

 

[PO2Hammer]

My 2010 USA made P220 ST is fantastic. great trigger in both SA and DA, laser accurate, very nice fit and finish.
Highly recommended.

 

[sparks701]

My SP2022 was made in Exeter, all USA and has been flawless.

 

[Porksandwich]

Looking for a little help with a Sig p226 I fired for the first time today. I am having an accuracy problem with this pistol. Shoots quite low. I have searched on line and have not been able to find a lower front sight. Anybody with input would be great Thanx

 

[rellascout]

Pork did anyone else shot the gun to confirm its hitting low? Also what sight picture are you using? 6 o clock or cover hold and at what distance is it shooting low?

 

[SIGLBER]

Except for my Mosquito all of my SIG's are older SIG's. From the experiences of my friends with the newer SIG's I would not buy one. My 229 and 239 are American made by the way and have been perfect. It seems somewhere after the exec from Kimber took over and started coming out with everything from beavertails to rainbows SIG has changed. IMHO that and the prices they want for their guns now they've lost their minds.

 

[Porksandwich]

Scout..Yes, I had the local sheriff shoot the gun. He agrees it is quite low. Distance of 25 yards. 6 O'clock sight picture.
Thanx for responding.

 

[HammerheadSSN663]

Your one personal experience data point does not negate the fact Sig has cheapened every single P series pistol with MIM parts and parts commonality. Look at what they did to the SP2022.

Calling people who do not agree with your optimistic outlook on Sig Sauer cultish is nothing more than an ad hominem attack. I am glad your Sigs run most do but that does not mean the Sig of today is inferior to the German company of old.

I had a P220 SAS DAK which was a dog. Went back to Sig twice does that mean all P220 SAS DAKs will not run? No it means that mine did not. Coupled with other peoples creditable accounts of extractor issues I have personally concluded that the SS slide with the old extractor should be avoided. YMMV

All poodles are dogs. Not all dogs are poodles. Simply logic.... Try it before you attack other peoples opinions and beliefs which happen to differ from yours.

your post makes not sense.

You blast the guy for defending current sigs then you defend current sigs.

Huh??

You're totally wrapped around the logic axle bro.

 

[Storm]

Siglber, I was just thinking today that if it's the case that SIG has jumped the shark (and I'm not necessarily saying that it has) they will look back to the rainbow as that moment. "To hell and back in a most colorful way". The horror...

 

[rellascout]

Pork, What are the numbers on the sight?



Try changing the sight picture.

http://pistol-training.com/archives/1361

 

[Porksandwich]

It is an 8 Rellascout. This trouble is beyond sight picture. At 10 yards the target is completely obscured by the slide and it is still low

 

[rellascout]

your post makes not sense.

You blast the guy for defending current sigs then you defend current sigs.

Huh??

You're totally wrapped around the logic axle bro.

Should say...

Calling people who do not agree with your optimistic outlook on Sig Sauer cultish is nothing more than an ad hominem attack. I am glad your Sigs run most do but that does not mean the Sig of today is not inferior to the German company of old.

 

[rellascout]

It is an 8 Rellascout. This trouble is beyond sight picture. At 10 yards the target is completely obscured by the slide and it is still low

#8 front and #8 rear are correct for a Sig P226 in 9mm. IIRC

Call Sig see what they say.

 

[Porksandwich]

Thanx Rellascout. I will definitely call them

 

[rellascout]

POA to POI changes on Sigs and it is still considered in spec but that difference should be correctable and be somewhere around 1 to 2 inches at 25 yards. IIRC

 

[Porksandwich]

Thanx much. And a quote "Where government fears the people there is liberty. Where people fear the government there is tyranny" ...Thomas Jefferson

 

[Auto426]

Back in the 1970's everyone was bemoaning the "terrible QC" of the S&W products. Yet, today, these are the "go to" guns the latest crop of "S&W is terrible" posters refer to. Colt was supposedly in the same boat in the late 70s and early 80s.

I call it the Rose Colored Glasses Syndrome, or in some cases the Old Fart Syndrome. In other words we always look back at the past and see only the good, as we tend to forget about the bad. It seems to hold true especially for gun enthusiasts, who always claim that no matter what make/model you are talking about, they were always better in the past and that the new ones just aren't as good. In some cases it's true, as some companies have cheapened their products slightly to meet a certain price point, but that's because if they didn't they would price themselves out the market and cease to exist. Times change, and people have to move on.

 

[spoon]

poodles

Rella, that isn't a poodle or a dog---- it is a wolf--- as in Swampwolf..
AND wolves have bigger teeth.... watch out my man, watch out.

Sig makes a very good pistol, both produced in the US and over seas.

Not everybody treats their guns the same way. And a gun manufacturer has to supply all ends of the market and have them work, while still making a profit..

Come on now boys. That asks a lot of a manufacturer.

Your cars went from steel to plastic and they got better to some not as good to others. So they changed something. Love or don't love it, it's like picking out a wife that doesn't talk back, and you are allowed to have more than one or two or black ones or pink ones or big ones or just little tiny ones.

If you don't like the new Sigs ( which I love ) go buy a Glock or High Point or Black and Decker ( they are all the same, at least they look the same ) and have fun.

Have a nice day now..