SIG sells 551 to Feds - may manufacture in USA

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Yes, but how affordable is it now for the American market? Not that I wouldn't buy one, but without the cost figures, I'd estimate it would cost 50% to 100% more than a G36 or M16. The M16 is very suitable for police and law enforcement use and the G36 is currently in use by, at least, the Capital police.

As for the import ban of 1989, this does not apply to Law Enforcement models. There is also a possibility of making a few parts in the US for compliance or making a 'watered down' rifle that complies with Bush Senior's ban.
 
What can this rifle do that a $700 AR style rifle can't do?

And here we complain that there's no innovation in the US firearms market. If you're happy with your AR, fine. Don't buy a Sig if it becomes available. I, for one, would like to see a civilian-legal Sig 551 on the US market just to get some variety. I'm sure it's an excellent weapon.

I mean, what will a $2000 pre-ban AR do that a post ban one won't? People buy them anyway, just to get that flashhider, bayonet lug, and collapsing stock.
 
They will have to either lobby like hell to get the import ban repealed or expend their NH facility to include rifle manufacturing. I would definitely be interested in a serious alternative to the AR15's.
 
I split this post off from the original Steyr thread, as I felt it deserved a thread of its own. This will be good news if local manufacture comes about - but will they produce a civilian-legal version???
I had a chance to handle, but not fire, one at Sigarms Academy last year. I don't think making a civilian version with existing legislation would be easy, nor would the market be very big.
 
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$115 mil / (5 * 3500) = $6571 per rifle
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I'm sure this number includes a lot of long term service and training, etc. IIRC, the actual cost to the .gov, per rifle, is about $1,000. Said contract was split between Sig, RRA, and maybe someone else, I don't remember. Sigs were the most expensive, but produced the best test results during the trials for said contract.


Not only the training aspect and service as you mentioned but it was up to 3500 rifles per year for 5 years, so it is still 1/5 of that cost.


Certainly the american version, coupled with the statement above that there are no plans to manufacture them here now or in the future, means that it is not an american "civilian" version unless the atf is suddenly letting up on the sporting purposes clause.
 
If Sig makes the receiver and 7 other main parts in the US, and imports the rest of the parts, then it is considered a US built gun. They don't have to make the whole rifle here. That gets around the import criteria.

As for what would this rifle do that an AR wouldn't, not much, doesn't mean that I wouldn't really want one though. What does a $1500 1911 do that at $500 Glock doesn't? I don't know, but we still manage to build a whole lot of $1500 1911s in this country.
 
Correia: I do get you point, but a slightly off topic question. Isn't the 7 parts ak specific. I realize the law should apply to all but does the atf say 7 parts or do they say a certainl percentage and for the AK that is 7 for example?
 
ajacobs,

The 1989 import ban was the following
18 USC Chapter 44 as amended by Public Law 101-647 (enacted 11-29-90) and 27 CFR part 178 as amended 06-25-93.

§ 178.39 Assembly of semiautomatic rifles or shotguns.

(a) No person shall assemble a semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun using more than 10 of the imported parts listed in paragraph (c) of this section if the assembled firearm is prohibited from importation under section 925(d)(3) as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes.

925(d)(3) includes FN FAL (L1A1) style semiautomatic rifle with folding stock, military style stock with separate pistol grip, threaded muzzle, flash hider, grenade launcher, bayonet lug, or night sights.

Note: FN FAL (L1A1) style semiautomatic rifles having a thumbhole style stock without the above features are approved for importation.

(c) For purposes of this section, the term "imported parts" are:

(1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forging or stampings
(2) Barrels
(3) Barrel extensions
(4) Mounting blocks (turnings)
(5) Muzzle attachments
(6) Bolts
(7) Bolt carriers
(8) Operating rods
(9) Gas pistons
(10) Trigger housings
(11) Triggers
(12) Hammers
(13) Sears
(14) Disconnectors
(15) Buttstocks
(16) Pistol grips
(17) Forearms, handguards
(18) Magazine bodies
(19) (Magazine) Followers
(20) (Magazine) Floorplates

Basically it means this. Of those 20 named parts, the particular rifle in question will only have some of them. For example, a FAL has no "mounting block" or "trunion". Of that number, e.g. 17 for an FAL, only 10 of them can be imported.

-z
 
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