Sig220 Vs. Colt1911

[Tezcatlipoca]

220.

No ramp jobs, worrying about hollow point ogive, or pain in the ass field strip.


Just simple efficiency.

 

[ravencon]

For serious work (i.e. HD or CC) I'll take the Sig 220. For me it has been 100% reliable. Whereas I've never owned a 1911 that has been 100% reliable.

The look and feel of the 1911 is great. The SA trigger is a fine thing. But, trust my life to a 1911?--No way.

 

[Redhat]

You guys crack me up! 1911 unreliable

 

[Chuck R.]

I'll gladly take the

pain in the ass field strip

for the 1911breeze of detail strip.

I don't think there's a semi around that detail strips easier than a 1911. The field strip really isn't that bad either. Just a question of doing it enough times.

BTW, between a pistol class last Saturday and shooting today, I've put a little over 800 rounds of 200 LSWC reloads through one of my 'non-reliable" 1911s this week.

Some of you guys have not shot the right 1911.

Chuck

 

[Redhat]

Alas another training issue, or lack thereof?

 

[usa1993]

If anyone thinks a 1911 field strips in any manner faster than a sig, then it's plainly obvious that they have only stripped a 1911 and have no basis for comparison; and therefore no basis for opinion on comparison; and therefore are just talking out of the wrong hole.

 

[AK103K]

I don't think there's a semi around that detail strips easier than a 1911.

The SIG is easier.

I've put a little over 800 rounds of 200 LSWC reloads through one of my 'non-reliable" 1911s this week.

and this was from a box stock 1911, right?

Some of you guys have not shot the right 1911.

I have shot and owned a great many 1911's over the years, some good, most of late, not all that good.

Alas another training issue, or lack thereof?

Your right, its the 1911 only shooters lack of training and understanding of the SIG, or anything else.

 

[Chuck R.]

AK103K,

When I say detail strip, I mean complete disassembly, not a field strip. Yes, the SIG does field strip easier.

And yes the 800 rounds of LSWCs was a box stock gun, minus a change in grips, mag well, and new night sights. Other than those modifications, none for reliability, the gun is stock. You probably want to go back and look at my earlier post though and see what I shoot for "stock" 1911's though.

As I said earlier in the thread, if it came down to equal priced pistols, I'd take the SIG. The original thread however, didn't set a price limit on either gun.

usa1993,

Guy, read the whole thread. I currently own 3 1911's and a SIG 220ST. I never said "field strip". Now if you think you can completely strip down your SIG faster than I can completely strip a 1911, then drive over to Leavenworth and show me.

Afterwards we can drive over to my range and get some shooting in.

Chuck

 

[usa1993]

Chuck:

Youre right, I jumped into the thread at the last......... it's so damned long! Hell it's Friday night I'm not going to read it all.... I mean no disrespect. Being from Leavenworth I imagine you're LEO or Corrections, and if not, owning the guns you say you do, then you know what you're talking about.

Safe shooting

USA

 

[usa1993]

I meant Saturday, maybe I need another one!

 

[Redhat]

AK103,

Sorry, I'm not a 1911 only shooter. Just saying, once familiarized with the gun, most of them are quite easy.

What's the point anyway. Does it matter how fast smeone can field strip their pistol?

 

[Chuck R.]

Being from Leavenworth I imagine you're LEO or Corrections

Nope, but you left out the big one in Leavenworth..........Army, well retired Army now.

Don't sweat it, I figured it was just a misunderstanding. IF you do get over this way, drop me a line. I own my own range and we can get out a put a few hundred rounds downrange. Nothing like clanging steel to clear a guys head.

Chuck

 

[CrawdaddyJim]

Bought a SIG P-220 today as a matter of fact. Stopped in and held and fondled a

1911 Rock Island

Fit my hand nicely. OK finish on pistol. ROUGH trigger (maybe just that gun). $495

Glock 20? Way too fat and short for my hands. Other wise I liked it.
$629 used in very good shape.

Springfield XD-45 Tactical. Nice gun with very little negatives except it would not fit well in my hands. I couldn't reach the slide release with my shooting hand. And I am kind of spooked by the "It has to go back to the factory for any repairs" except for aftermarket springs. $549 nib

Kimber. I just wanted to fondle it as it is waaaaay too far for my wallet to reach it. Nice feel and smooth trigger and slide tight.
$1195 nib

SIG P-220. Felt even better than the 1911. Pointed naturally for me. Trigger was really nice both DA and SA. The only negative for me with this model is the single stack magazine but with my hands it probably wouldn't fit if it was a double stack. I will just have to get used to carrying multiple magazines.
$625 nib

 

[Poohgyrr]

1911, hands down. The P220 grip isn't bad, but that pistol just does not shot nearly as well for me. And I understand Sig has finally fixed the cracking problem, which is good.

The two Kimbers I've shot were both free of problems. Dittos for an ORM Colt 1991 GM. And I'm glad to hear so many people praising Baers, and no one having any problems. I just bought a Baer TRS and so far, WOW!! And that bushing wrench is absolutely needed....

To be honest, I'd rather have a S&W TDA .45 than a Sig TDA .45.


Yup. Between P220 and 1911, it is 1911.

But, at least we are discussing .45s...

 

[Dobe]

1911, although the SIG is a nice choice.

 

[vanilla_gorilla]

I liked my 220ST so much that I traded it for the "other" SA wonder, the High Power.

2 1911's, a BHP, but didn't feel the need to keep either of my Sigs. I appreciate the trigger and and feel of a 1911, and a DA/SA Sig just can't match it. Beyond that, I'm on my third Springfield 1911 now, and all three have been more reliable than my 220ST. (the 226 NEVER bobbled)

 

[smokin'n gun]

Shot both.
Like both.

Have two P220's.

Sold my 1911

Will probably get another, maybe after a P226R in .357
:banghead:
Bet my life on a gun? Not likely.

probably favor the Sig.

 

[pablo45]

I have 3 sig p220's and i love them. Probably because i am not a 1911 fan i would much rather carry something i like instead of what i everyone else likes.

 

[Redhat]

So Pablo,

Are you saying the Sig is a gun everyone else doesn't like

 

[jlh26oo]

So Pablo,

Are you saying the Sig is a gun everyone else doesn't like

He's just saying that he bases his criteria for choosing on what he likes, rather than what someone does or doesn't (not that sig is unpopular- his point is popularity is irrelevant vs personal preference).