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I have had one for several years and have more than 2k rounds through it. Never failed in any respect and very accurate. Lot of people complain about the trigger pull but not as bad as some DA triggers. Mine was gritty feeling and heavy pull and Cabela's sent it back to S&W and it came back much better. For the money they are hard to beat.
 
I teach pistol classes and bought two SW9VEs to use as "loaner" pistols for my course. They have been used by a large number of students ranging from new to experienced shooters. I have also shot a lot of rounds through both of them.

I have never had a malfunction of any kind with either pistol. Not one.

You can find them for under $300. IMO, the S&W Sigma SW9VE is a great value.
 
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Good guns for the money.
Some don't like the trigger. Well any striker fired semi feels like like crap to me.
If you want a nice trigger get a 1911.
To get back on subject good guns. Maybe a trigger job. And that's it.
 
Handled a .45 the other day. Liked the way it felt but hated the trigger. I prefer the XD.
 
I had one as my first pistol. Great gun, never any problems with it. Great gun for the money.
 
Handled and shot one for the first time last week.

I put five rounds into the size of a golf ball at 10 yards my first try.

Trigger feels like every other striker-fired pistol I've tried. I think it looks good, shoots well, and it's cheap.
 
My buddy owns one and I just shot it again today. It hasn't jammed, and the grip is decent for both our hands, plus for $300 new it's an unbeatable value. I hate the trigger though, and the gun definitely 'feels' like Smith and Wesson's bottom shelf offering...I bought a 4.25 M&P Pro Series a while back, and we both prefer that gun in every aspect, plus it just feels more refined and much higher quality. But the Sigma is no doubt a great value and if not looking to spend much $ I would buy a new Sigma over most used guns.
 
Internet people love to hate them, except for the ones that claim to actually have fired one.

If you can get one cheap, you might as well.
 
A friend of mine has the .40 version. I don't like the trigger pull, how it bends in half first then strikes at a wierd timing. It also malfunctioned consistently, but I believe that was a mag problem. Overall, I can't really say, but the one I've had experience with did not impress me.
 
I've got one that I got because it was cheap. I don't shoot it a lot, but when I do (several hundred rounds I guess), it works just fine. The trigger isn't as bad as "everyone" says it is. I had a Kel-Tec, P-11 that was a LOT worse.

I really don't see a lot of difference between it and my wife's Glock 19, other than the Glock has a little better trigger, and costs twice as much.
 
After shooting my two 1911s which never malfunctioned, I was very displeased with the Sigma S9VE. I sent it back to S&W which did not help. It went on consistently jamming until about 13 boxes, at which time it became completely reliable. The gun is accurate and actually I like the trigger. In the interim I got a 10-round mag as it had come with a 16-round one. It jammed with that so I may just be broken in for the 16-rounder.
 
Sigma 9VE was my first. There had to be some trigger smoothing done. Then it was a good gun. It's still in the family motor home.
 
For the money it is hard to beat.

My brother -in-law has one in 9mm and he has put thousands of rounds through it without problems. He paid $310 for it NIB.
 
It's my EDC. I haven't had any malfunctions in the 800-900 rounds I've put through it. The trigger seems to get better every time I shoot it. Plus it eats whatever I feed it. Best deal out there if you ask me! The only problem is that mags are $50/ each
 
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See the recent Ruger P95 thread.. more or less in the same middle quality category as it. I personally wouldn't spend my money on one, I don't see a use for them. It would be a alright beginner plinker gun. There are tons of Sigma's, P series Rugers, Keltec and Hi Point in all the local Pawn Shops.. for a reason. They are cheap throw aways used in the projects around town, bought by thugs that are totally ignorant to anything firearm related. With firearms, most of the times you get what you pay for. I would never trust my life to a budget firearm.There is no reason to waste money on a $300 low quality firearm when you can spend $500 and buy a top of the line quality firearm.
When it comes to life saving tools, don't skimp on money. Buy a good quality firearm that is built perfect inside and outside and every way in between.
 
Earlier Sigmas had their issues, but from what I hear they have straightened up in the past 4-5 years. Mostly problems with function and gritty triggers. Ive shot 2 over the past few years, and they all functioned well. They're cheaply made, and you can see the difference on fit & finish compared to a Glock, Sig, or just about any other pricier handgun. For something a little different to have for the range, go for it. If you're going to carry it and possibly need to depend on it, I would get something a little more proven.
 
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See the recent Ruger P95 thread.. more or less in the same middle quality category as it. I personally wouldn't spend my money on one, I don't see a use for them. It would be a alright beginner plinker gun. There are tons of Sigma's, P series Rugers, Keltec and Hi Point in all the local Pawn Shops.. for a reason. They are cheap throw aways used in the projects around town, bought by thugs that are totally ignorant to anything firearm related. With firearms, most of the times you get what you pay for. I would never trust my life to a budget firearm.There is no reason to waste money on a $300 low quality firearm when you can spend $500 and buy a top of the line quality firearm.
When it comes to life saving tools, don't skimp on money. Buy a good quality firearm that is built perfect inside and outside and every way in between.

And the troll returns . . .

As to real responses - as has been said by almost everyone else - the trigger on the Sigmas is kinda harsh. S&W will typically lighten/smooth it out for free though. With that aside, they are typically reliable guns.

As to "thugs" buying them - "thugs" typically have prior records and buy their guns hot on the street (a NICS check in a shop is a major hangup) - where they pretty much all command the same prices regardless of whose name is stamped on the side. The Sigma and the P95 are both in the same boat - plenty reliable and and accurate enough for carry duty. They're a little rough around the edges and probably would not be ideal for target (particularly competition target) work, or if you want something truly special. As a "working" gun though? Lots of value.

OH and PS: as someone who does visit pawn shops a lot, the most common gun I see in there: Glocks (with various 1911 variants trailing behind in 2nd). Not because they're bad, but just because they're relatively common. I have at least 10 pawn shops that I check out on at least a bi-weekly basis to see what they have, and never have I seen any of the brands you mention outnumber Glocks in the cases.
 
good point on the PS. And (at least in NC, maybe everywhere but I don't know) Pawn shops have to have police run a serial number on a gun to make sure it's not hot when they buy them from customers. If the gun is stolen or known to have been used in a crime they are out the money they paid for it because they cannot sell that item. I know because I was there once when the police officer showed up to remove a few of the guns a shop had in "the back." And then, being inquisitive, I asked about it.
 
My wife chose a 9VE over an array of brands and styles purely on comfort in her hand.

the only Failures the gun has had are operator induced, she's shot mostly revolvers until now, but her grip is improving with this one.

I can feed mag after mag through it without issue, and it shoots well.

Once you get past the long gritty trigger that is, hers is beginning to smooth out a little over time.

If it's the gun you can afford, there's nothing wrong with 'em.

If you can save up for a M&P or XD you'll probably be a bit happier with one of those, or a nice CZ-75 if you want metal.
 
I know because I was there once when the police officer showed up to remove a few of the guns a shop had in "the back." And then, being inquisitive, I asked about it.

Yep. As a matter of fact, I have written part of the software our sherrif's department uses for this purpose (I work in the IT department of a local government). A former colleague of mine wrote the initial version of the program prior to retiring, and now that he is gone I have had to add a few tweaks and additions here and there as needed. Works great, and they get a lot of stolen merchandise back that way. From what one of the guys said they even used it to help with evidence in a homicide case last year (from what I recall of the story the victim was murdered and several items taken, and they were able to matchup several of the item descriptions with items that were pawned, and the person pawning them lived next door to the victim).

Virtually all the software the pawnshops use is configured to export to systems like this. In particular, I know that a lot of the local shops use a program called Compupawn which we are able to import the data from.
 
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