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Well, I guess this one will get me in the sig club:

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The P220's are great guns. Too bad .45acp is getting so expensive. I'm thinking about getting into reloading just so I can shoot my P220's more often.
 
Yep, reloading is the way to go. I have a hornady LNL ap and like it a lot.
 
It depends on what kind of press you want. I got the hornady for 333. shipped from midsouth and they have a 1000 bullet rebate right now so I sold mine for 100.+ (they were hornady hollow points and I use precison poly for plinking) so I would up paying about 233 for my press. I think that's a heck of a deal for a good progressive press. You can get a lee classic turret with all the goodies for about 150.00 but I had one of them and as far as I'm concerned the price difference is more than worth it. I suggest going into the reloading section and just post some questions, there will be a lot of opinions.
 
I will man and thanks. Good luck on researching reloading.

The reloading forum at 1911forum has a lot of knowledgeable people also.
 
Made it to the range today to fire my 9MM P226ST w/ the new short trigger for the first time. I really like the shorter trigger.....as stated earlier I don't have the biggest hands, and the slightly thinner trigger seems to make a difference to me in DA. And it doesn't bother me in SA either (that is something people say is a negative trait of the short trigger).

Next up I plan to send it out to Grayguns for some smoothing and fine-tuning.
 
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Thats gonna be one knocked out P226ST :D
I've never had the pleasure of shooting a Grayguns tuned gun, but I've seen many posts on the Sigforum about how great they are. Good luck with it and let us know what you have done to it and give us a range report.
 
Here is a sample. Since this pic was taken, the DAK and the ST have both made trips to Grayguns. The ST has a GGI full comp. trigger. The SP2009 is an APW/Cogan custom.

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I'll get an updated pic of the whole family in a day or two.
 
Bruce smoothed out the DAK. It made the trigger pull nice and even all the way to the break. I have also put CTC grips on it since then. The ST is now equipped with Hogue checkered and clear anodized aluminum grips. Warren rear and Dawson front sights have been installed on the ST, DAK and the SP.

MY 228 (not pictured here) has also made the trip to GGI for their CRRAP package as well as the Warren/Dawson sight combo.
 
Is your ST a P220 or a P226? What grips are on the ST in the picture?

I have a P229 DAK that I put an 18lb Wolff hammer spring into. It really made a difference in the pull - lighter and felt smoother?? I don't know why it feels smoother now, but it does. I use it in the informal IDPA shoots at my local range and I do pretty well with it.
I have two other Sigs with the DAK trigger, but I haven't done anything with them as of yet.
 
The 226ST has Nill grips in the pic.

From left to right in the pic:

JJ date code W.German P226
APW/Cogan SP2009
P226R DAK 40S&W
P226R-ST 357Sig


One thing about the DAK trigger, going to a lighter mainspring can lead to light strike issues more so than you would see with the same weight spring on the DA/SA action. After GGI got finished with my DAK, the pull was lighter and smoother but it still utlizes the stock mainspring.
 
I was concerned about light strikes when I first changed the spring. I've put about 800-900 rounds of different ammo, including carry ammo through it and haven't had one FTF.

I have a P220ST and have been thinking about putting Nills on it. I don't carry or shoot it much, so I'm not worried about beating them up. I've never held a gun with Nills on it, but I've certainly read enough possitive posts about them here and on the Sigforum to know that they are worth the $$.
 
Has anyone here shot the Sig 210...? are they really that accurate...?
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Years ago I had a customer who worked as an armorer for Sig. He said that the most accurate pistol they ever made was the P220, noticeably more accurate than the P210. I just bought a used P220 and I can't argue with him.
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P210 shoots tighter groups at 50 meters than P220 does at 25 meters. SIGARMS promotes P220 and other German and American-made guns out of the same profit motive that caused the P210 manufacture by Swiss Arms Neuhausen to be discontinued last year.
 
I've never held a gun with Nills on it, but I've certainly read enough positive posts about them here and on the Sigforum to know that they are worth the $$.
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ROCO grips have the same profile and are cheaper. I had a set of those at onetime as well. I got rid of all my wood grips after a I shattered a grip panel one time doing a reload.

If you find the stock grip panels are too thin, then you would probably like the Nills because they have more of a palm swell then the stock grips.
 
P210 shoots tighter groups at 50 meters than P220 does at 25 meters.
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My P220 Match easily out shoots the P210 I used to have, and my P226ST will match my former its accuracy.

SIGARMS promotes P220 and other German and American-made guns out of the same profit motive that caused the P210 manufacture by Swiss Arms Neuhausen to be discontinued last year.
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Yea, ashame a company would feel they needed to make a profit...:confused:

I bought a new P210-6 many years ago and I discovered that IMO the P210 is over hyped. Some people will just about wet themselves over the mention of a P210. A P210 is a nice pistol but that is about it. So IMO what was the best attribute of a P210??? Well, it was the fact that someone would pay me more for a used gun than it cost me when it was new. This same person ,however, also came to the conclusion that the P210 wasn't all that he imagined, but hey , he turned a profit on it when he sold it.
 
I agree on the P210.
I'd rather have a P220 Match or a P226 X5 and buy a sh*t load of ammo with the money I'd save......
but if I where rich, I'd buy one just to say I have one :rolleyes:
 
Setting aside the questions of profit for their makers and savings for their buyers, comparing the P210 to the P220 makes sense only when both guns are in the same state of tune. In other words, compare a service gun to a service gun and a match gun to a match gun. In comparisons of this sort, the P210-based gun will shoot tighter groups at 50 meters than the P220-based gun will at 25 meters. Anyone who doubts this claim would be well advised to read up on the subject, beginning with the factory design specs, certified test targets, and 50 meter service handgun competition results.
 
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